fritzsch
fritzsch Reader
10/14/12 10:53 p.m.

Title is pretty self explanatory. So I was removing the wheels on a car this weekend, and front driver wheel wouldn't come off since the stud was just spinning with the lugnut. They are steel wheels and I have a bit of access to the stud/lugnut so its not like it is recessed into a well of an alloy wheel.

How can I remove the lugnut? And this is the first time anything like this has happened to me, so what do you I do after I get the wheel off? I imagine the stud needs to be replaced, how do I do that?

Edit: Car is AMC Eagle. I also don't have any sort of torch, welder, plasma cutter.

Aeromoto
Aeromoto HalfDork
10/14/12 10:58 p.m.

What kind of car?

fritzsch
fritzsch Reader
10/14/12 11:00 p.m.

The car in question is an AMC Eagle I very stupidly bought.

Aeromoto
Aeromoto HalfDork
10/14/12 11:01 p.m.

Front or rear wheel?

fritzsch
fritzsch Reader
10/14/12 11:03 p.m.

Front

Spinout007
Spinout007 GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/14/12 11:08 p.m.

Can you pull the other lugnuts and pull/pry on the wheel to put tension on the bolt? Not likely but its worth a try. Lots of penetrating oil applied every few hours.

Aeromoto
Aeromoto HalfDork
10/14/12 11:10 p.m.

Sucks that it's the front, the rear would've been easier. Sometimes I've had luck by taking the other 4 lugs off and have a buddy put a prying force on the side opposite to the spinning stud, while I held an air impact on the lug. I've also had to take a cut off wheel and cut a slot across the stud where I could hold it with a big regular screwdriver, and use an open end wrench to loosen the lug, if you have the room.

Anyway, yes the stud will have to be replaced and maybe even tack welded if the hub hole is wallowed out

MrJoshua
MrJoshua PowerDork
10/14/12 11:13 p.m.

Can you get a wrench on the lug nut? If so: use wrench to hold the nut and drill out the lug. If you are lucky the bit will catch on the lug and spin it out of the nut.

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic Reader
10/14/12 11:33 p.m.

Try an impact wrench, if that doesn't work, drill it out and break it off.

novaderrik
novaderrik UltraDork
10/15/12 3:08 a.m.

use a good fitting impact socket and a breaker bar to break the stud off with a quick downward motion. the hardened stud will snap right off.

tpwalsh
tpwalsh Reader
10/15/12 6:30 a.m.

In reply to novaderrik: And In reply to Kenny_McCormic:

How do you drill out or break off a stud that just spins?

HappyAndy
HappyAndy Dork
10/15/12 6:52 a.m.
novaderrik wrote: use a good fitting impact socket and a breaker bar to break the stud off with a quick downward motion. the hardened stud will snap right off.

What he said ^

mw
mw Dork
10/15/12 7:19 a.m.
tpwalsh wrote: In reply to novaderrik: And In reply to Kenny_McCormic: How do you drill out or break off a stud that just spins?

Vise grips on the nut. (that sounds painful)

jmthunderbirdturbo
jmthunderbirdturbo Reader
10/15/12 7:19 a.m.

^this

novaderrik
novaderrik UltraDork
10/15/12 7:40 a.m.
tpwalsh wrote: In reply to novaderrik: And In reply to Kenny_McCormic: How do you drill out or break off a stud that just spins?

you don't use the breaker bar to spin the nut- you use a quick downward motion to break the stud... just turn the breaker bar "sideways" so the end doesn't bend when you push down really hard and really fast. a spinner handle also works well for this..

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
10/15/12 7:43 a.m.

Sounds like the splines on the hub are gouged out...you're gonna need a new one.

+1 for breaking off with lateral motion.

JohnInKansas
JohnInKansas HalfDork
10/15/12 8:38 a.m.

I had one do this once. I wound up tack welding the stud to the hub (just put some "bubblegum" weld on it, not looking for real good penetration). Once the stud was secure, I spun the nut off and whacked the stud out with a BFH, used a small file to clean up the hub, replaced all the studs with new ones.

YMMV, of course.

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
10/15/12 9:00 a.m.
novaderrik wrote: use a good fitting impact socket and a breaker bar to break the stud off with a quick downward motion. the hardened stud will snap right off.

Probably the easiest way out. If the hole in the hub is damaged you can see if there is a stud where the splined section is a little bit bigger and drill out the hole in the hub to the correct size..

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