They lost me in the third turn of that drag race
They lost me in the third turn of that drag race
Keith Tanner said:The F&F movies haven’t been about cars for some time now. The first couple were, but now they’re superhero buddy movies with a heist at the core. It’s all about family. At least, that’s what Don keeps saying.
Well, family and Corona. 
Around the fifth one, the F&F became what Keith is describing. Ridiculous, over-the-top action movies with funny quips and Vin Diesel mumbling about family and some decent car porn. Turn your brain off and enjoy the spectacle.
It a movie. It a berkeleying movie. It's not going to be realistic. Isn't the reason we go to see these things is to escape reality for a few hours? Did the Fast & Furious ever imply that they were trying to be real?
The most realistic car movie ever made is Two Lane Blacktop. What if you were a street racer and someone filmed a week of your life? (That is the exact premise from the filmmaker's mouth) Well...most of it would be boring as E36 M3. Just like real life.
It's almost unwatchable.
In reply to Appleseed :
Great singer's acting not so much
They secretly replaced James Tayor with a 2x4. You didn't even notice, did you?
Appleseed said:Two Lane Blacktop.
It's almost unwatchable.
The soundtrack is pretty awesome though.
Corvette Summer is pretty horrid.
Someone beats a Corvette with an ugly stick.
Same stick is taken to a Firebird Formula 400, just a little less heavily.
Mark Hamil "acting"
I don’t get why Gisele died from a 20 foot fall at not very fast speed when with her training she probably would have tucked and rolled. It’s like “oh I’m sure she’s dead on that runway back there nobody even bother turning around to check on her, i’m going to check out the drift scene in Tokyo and get killed peace out bros”
So am I the only person who watches an batman movie just for the batmobile? I remember watching the george cluny batman movie. They popped ice skates out of their boots in the first ten minutes. I tried to leave the movie but SWMBO said it had to get better. It didn't. When they showed the new batmobile with Cluny's head totally exposed, that was it for me.
Then Batman begins totally redeemed the franchise with their set up/explantion of the new batmobile. Def one of the top three batmobiles ever. I liked the latest one, but I'm not sure about the exposed machine guns. Plus the feature on how they built the thing is super cool.
For sure I don't really care who plays batman, but please don't screw up the Batmobile.
In reply to Wally :
Totally agree. The 1st Smokey and the Bandit was fun, 2nd was almost a decent sequel, flush #3. Gumball Rally was fun but I think some of what made the watchable was the cast were popular and fun on their own. The 70s had a bunch of car centric movies that were ok. I can't remember the name right now but a favorite was one where an 18 wheeler chased a guy relentlessly across the country/midwest almost the entire movie was a chase scene. Icertainly picked apart inaccuracies like headlights not working from scene to scene and other dumb stuff like that. For modern day stuff it mostly seems that Hollywood can't come up with an original idea anymore and they rehash the same tired stuff and we keep paying to see them.
imgon said:In reply to Wally :
Totally agree. The 1st Smokey and the Bandit was fun, 2nd was almost a decent sequel, flush #3. Gumball Rally was fun but I think some of what made the watchable was the cast were popular and fun on their own. The 70s had a bunch of car centric movies that were ok. I can't remember the name right now but a favorite was one where an 18 wheeler chased a guy relentlessly across the country/midwest almost the entire movie was a chase scene. Icertainly picked apart inaccuracies like headlights not working from scene to scene and other dumb stuff like that. For modern day stuff it mostly seems that Hollywood can't come up with an original idea anymore and they rehash the same tired stuff and we keep paying to see them.
Duel
Patrick said:imgon said:In reply to Wally :
Totally agree. The 1st Smokey and the Bandit was fun, 2nd was almost a decent sequel, flush #3. Gumball Rally was fun but I think some of what made the watchable was the cast were popular and fun on their own. The 70s had a bunch of car centric movies that were ok. I can't remember the name right now but a favorite was one where an 18 wheeler chased a guy relentlessly across the country/midwest almost the entire movie was a chase scene. Icertainly picked apart inaccuracies like headlights not working from scene to scene and other dumb stuff like that. For modern day stuff it mostly seems that Hollywood can't come up with an original idea anymore and they rehash the same tired stuff and we keep paying to see them.
Duel
And it was Dennis Weaver getting chased through California.
Steven Spielberg's full length directing debut on ABC's Movie Of The Week.
Patrick said:I don’t get why Gisele died from a 20 foot fall at not very fast speed when with her training she probably would have tucked and rolled. It’s like “oh I’m sure she’s dead on that runway back there nobody even bother turning around to check on her, i’m going to check out the drift scene in Tokyo and get killed peace out bros”
8 feet is enough to kill you. Your body can totally invert to fall head first in your body's length. We had a guy at work die from a 12 foot fall.
Appleseed said:The most realistic car movie ever made is Two Lane Blacktop. What if you were a street racer and someone filmed a week of your life? (That is the exact premise from the filmmaker's mouth) Well...most of it would be boring as E36 M3. Just like real life.
It's almost unwatchable.
I gave you a +1, but I really enjoyed Two Lane Blacktop. It's almost like meditation, watching it. There's so much down time, it's almost a literal road movie.
I am way worse than you folks. I will straight up interrupt a movie and rudely swear at the TV if I notice ANYTHING out of whack. Ferris Beuller driving the Ferrari.... the sound effect clearly is a manual, but the car is an automatic. I watched something last week where they added FX for a Porsche 911SC starting up. You saw the actor put his hand near the key but not turn it, the sound effect was an old 70s mopar small block starter (that awful whiny starter sound), and the engine running was from a dual-port 1600 from a 60s VW. Another one that gets me is when they horribly mismatch the audio clip with acceleration/deceleration. A car pulls off slowly, but the sound effect is much higher RPM... or they come to a stop and the revs don't match the speed... but my BIGGEST PET PEEVE is when they show a car sliding on a dirt road and have the tire squealing sound like it's on pavement.
Press pause, get a drink, and walk it off.
Production companies spend hundreds of millions of dollars to make a big blockbuster, including paying for the best of the best sound editors. Don't you think there is at least ONE sound person in the world who isn't a complete automotive moron? I guess not. Automotive sfx are truly completely amateur hour in 95% of productions.
Curtis said:I am way worse than you folks. I will straight up interrupt a movie and rudely swear at the TV if I notice ANYTHING out of whack. Ferris Beuller driving the Ferrari.... the sound effect clearly is a manual, but the car is an automatic.
It’s also an MG :)
We just watched Fast & Furious because of this thread (the fourth one, after The Fast & The Furious, 2 Fast 2 Furious and Tokyo Drift, illustrating the naming conventions that make it so easy to follow the series) and I had pause and laugh at the first “kar kulture” moment where they’re launching a drag race between an RS200 and an AE86. That is one seriously confident Toyota owner...
Curtis said:my BIGGEST PET PEEVE is when they show a car sliding on a dirt road and have the tire squealing sound like it's on pavement.
Mine is when the tires are already spinning, and they give it more gas to pull/accelerate harder. Pulling the safe in Fast 5 for example, or in Fast 8 there is a truly, truly, awful scene where they have all harpooned Dom's car and they are having a multi-car tug of war.
thedoc said:Two things I don't get: Why does hollywood make such bad car movies when the audience is so easy to please and why don't they make more of them?
Hollywood isn't making car movies for car guys, they are for general audiences who think red cars are faster. There needs to be a car nerd on set or as director and you can tell with some movies like Baby Driver.
Regarding Bullitt, a single chase scene doesn't make a car movie to me. It's 2 hours of McQueen scowling and a well executed 10 minute chase scene. A Man and a Woman is more car movie because the male lead is a racing driver and there's scenes of him testing a GT40, racing at Le Mans, and the Monte Carlo rally, but it's really a French chick flick. I recently saw The French Connection and it had a cool chase, but like Bullitt it's a cop movie (where people appeared to shower less frequently).
There's a drag race but no real action in American Graffiti, but that's a car movie. Most of the story takes place in and around 4 wheels.
Along with being a fantastic music video, I also consider Dazed and Confused a pretty good car movie without trying to be.
Period correctness, only one bizarre burnout noise on grass that I recall, a focus on cruising around, nothing super crazy, but almost an appreciation?
There are only two good car movies and they tie for #1: LeMans and Grand Prix.
Bullitt was actually pretty awful. I don’t need to watch the same dodge losing the same hubcap in the same turn 3x all spliced together to look like one long chase.
F&F didn’t one episode have NOPI girls? That’s make it the best.
What's interesting is that there was a movie titled "The Fast and The Furious" made in 1955. I haven't watched it but the description of the plot I read seems closer to Vanishing Point than Fast and Furious as we know it.
penultimeta said:Both movies and cars are passions of mine. Rarely, however, do they do intersect.
“Drive” is both an excellent movie and an excellent car movie
I loved Drive, from that first chase/evasion scene. I think it’s biggest problem was that it was marketed as an action film instead of the drama that it was.
Curtis said:but my BIGGEST PET PEEVE is when they show a car sliding on a dirt road and have the tire squealing sound like it's on pavement.
There was an MST3k (Mystery Science Theater 3000, show that makes fun of bad movies) where the movie had a car chase through a grassy swamp area and they kept showing the cars going around corners with tire squealing sounds dubbed in. The guys kept commenting on it, and my favorite line was "Ahh, the mysterious squealing swamp!" So of course, whenever a movie has that sound error, I say that line.
Some people think F&F is so bad it's good. I think it goes past "so bad it's good" and on into uncharted hinterlands of "this is truly, existentially terrible".
Daylan C said:What's interesting is that there was a movie titled "The Fast and The Furious" made in 1955. I haven't watched it but the description of the plot I read seems closer to Vanishing Point than Fast and Furious as we know it.
The F&F (2001) plot is almost identical to Point Break
In reply to ProDarwin :
I've heard that. Just replace cars with surf boards.
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