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MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt Dork
11/21/10 5:57 p.m.

Spun off of the GM thread: Wheel sizes have been creeping up, a lot. Knurled wondered whether it's possible to find an enthusiast-oriented GM car that rides on 14" wheels. I would like to ask if it's possible to find any enthusiast-oriented cars of recent vintage that ride on 14" wheels, period. Even in the '80s, tiny cars like the Omni GLHS used 15" rims.

So, what's the last car you'd consider an enthusiast car, that seats four or more, and came with 14" rims, that was sold in the US? I won't put any conditions on what exactly is an enthusiast car; we can use a Supreme Court obscenity definition here. You know it when you see it.

Sonic
Sonic Dork
11/21/10 6:03 p.m.

2nd generation Integra GSR had 14" wheels, as late as 1993

paul
paul Reader
11/21/10 6:03 p.m.

late 80s honda accord/prelude?...

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
11/21/10 6:08 p.m.

parker
parker New Reader
11/21/10 6:10 p.m.

Might be pushing on "enthusiast car", but 1st gen Neons including ACR and R/T were on 14's.

JFX001
JFX001 SuperDork
11/21/10 6:12 p.m.

Didn't the Achieva SC (X?) with the performance suspension come with 14's?

peter
peter New Reader
11/21/10 6:13 p.m.

Seats four? The Miata would might fit four. If two were small and dismembered... But yes, it ran on 14" wheels for many years.

Spinout007
Spinout007 GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/21/10 6:18 p.m.

In reply to parker: My R/T rode on 15's off the dealership lot. It was on 15's when I rolled it to. :(

MCarp22
MCarp22 Reader
11/21/10 6:24 p.m.
Spinout007 wrote: In reply to parker: My R/T rode on 15's off the dealership lot. It was on 15's when I rolled it to. :(

They weren't the factory wheels then.

mndsm
mndsm Dork
11/21/10 6:34 p.m.
parker wrote: Might be pushing on "enthusiast car", but 1st gen Neons including ACR and R/T were on 14's.

I'd call the ACR an enthusiast car.

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt Dork
11/21/10 6:39 p.m.
mndsm wrote:
parker wrote: Might be pushing on "enthusiast car", but 1st gen Neons including ACR and R/T were on 14's.
I'd call the ACR an enthusiast car.

Me too. I thought they used 15" rims; looks like I was mistaken.

JoeyM
JoeyM Dork
11/21/10 6:47 p.m.
MadScientistMatt wrote: So, what's the last car you'd consider an enthusiast car, that seats four or more, and came with 14" rims, that was sold in the US? I won't put any conditions on what exactly is an enthusiast car; we can use a Supreme Court obscenity definition here. You know it when you see it.

My Geo storm has 14" wheels. Of course, that probably won't pass your "know it when you see it" test.

mndsm
mndsm Dork
11/21/10 7:08 p.m.

Joey- did the right front tie rod snap on that corner? You appear to have some SILLY steering angle there.

turbojunker
turbojunker HalfDork
11/21/10 7:10 p.m.

Zomby woof
Zomby woof Dork
11/21/10 7:19 p.m.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy HalfDork
11/21/10 7:26 p.m.

NX2000, ACR Neon, and low line F bodies until 85.

RoosterSauce
RoosterSauce Reader
11/21/10 7:40 p.m.

2010 Hyundai Accent GS

JoeyM
JoeyM Dork
11/21/10 7:43 p.m.
mndsm wrote: Joey- did the right front tie rod snap on that corner? You appear to have some SILLY steering angle there.

Nope, the problem is me, not the rod; I have a bad habit of using WAY too much steering input. That, obviously, makes it understeer BADLY through the corners. Even worse, last weekend I caught myself eliminating the understeer by tapping the brakes to put weight on the front tires.

Obviously, I'm hurting my times when I use the brakes too often. I know that the solution is to steer less.....but i have trouble remembering when I'm on course.

Oh, the jaguar club was amused by the amount of wheel lift in the geo has when I drive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNOtDXO7wd4 (six seconds into the video)
Yes, I know that's also due to using too much steering and jerking the wheel when I do it.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/21/10 7:53 p.m.

So nothing for at least 15 years then...

novaderrik
novaderrik HalfDork
11/21/10 7:55 p.m.

Cavalier Z24 came with 14" wheels up to '94. pretty sure the Sunbird variant was the same way.

novaderrik
novaderrik HalfDork
11/21/10 7:59 p.m.

Cavalier Z24 came with 14" wheels up to '94. pretty sure the Sunbird variant was the same way.

Travis_K
Travis_K Dork
11/21/10 8:06 p.m.

1999 Neon would be the last i could think of.

Marty!
Marty! Dork
11/21/10 8:06 p.m.

'02 Lancer OZ rally edition.

I don't think it was a "real" enthusiast car but it was sure marketed as one.

In reality it was a less pricey alternative to the EVO for those that didn't know any better.

mndsm
mndsm Dork
11/21/10 8:07 p.m.

I have been unable to confirm whether or not the MINI was available with 14's, I suspect the 15" is the smallest.... though some did actually have steelies and caps.....

pimpm3
pimpm3 New Reader
11/22/10 12:57 a.m.

1994 SE-R Sentra

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