AugustusGloop
AugustusGloop New Reader
2/2/12 2:06 p.m.

Started looking for an inexpensive cargo van to tow our Chump Car to events and provide a makeshift toolbox/shelter at the track. Looking for 3/4 ton Ford/Chevy/Dodge van which according to our budget puts us in the 1998ish to 2002ish range. What things should I be looking for/looking out for and which make is most reliable of this vintage?

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/2/12 2:18 p.m.

The Ford's of that era were under-powered and had issues. The Dodge's were okay, and the GM's were great. If you're going to do a lot of towing though, I'd try for a diesel...

Gearheadotaku
Gearheadotaku GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/2/12 2:23 p.m.

Chevy has the most foot room, way more comfortable on long drives. Look for a heavy (8600 GVW) model, it will have 8 lug wheels. Extended wheelbase option gives about 2 more feet inside. Add a good trans cooler.

aussiesmg
aussiesmg SuperDork
2/2/12 10:19 p.m.

Ford Diesels of that era were very very good, almost as good as a Cummins. Take that how you see fit.

curtis73
curtis73 GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/3/12 1:10 a.m.

Ford Powerstroke. Done.

I searched for almost 2 years to find one. Finally got one. 99 Stroke, 98k miles, short box.

You can get cheap Chevy diesel 6.5L vans, but you won't really have much power/torque benefit over a 6.0L gas. You will save money on fuel since the MPG difference is more than the diesel cost increase in most states.

Dodge doesn't offer a diesel, nor do they offer a transmission that will take the punishment. If you get a dodge, drill out the check valve in the cooler line, install and aftermarket cooler, and cross your fingers.

Chevy has some nice ergonomic things, but overall the engineering is not what I'd call good. I was in charge of maintenance on a fleet of 136 vans and trucks for a utility company. The overwhelming complaint on our GM vans was that the A/C kept quitting. The condensers are ridiculously inefficient and on hot days the A/C would overheat and kick off the compressor.

Ford Pros: killer A/C, bulletproof E4OD trans (up through 99), shorter wheelbase/turning radius.
Ford cons: ridiculously tight engine bay

Chevy Pros: 6.5L reliability (when you move the PMD to a cool location), taller box, 4L80E cheap to fix when it dies (which it will)
Chevy Cons: Inefficient A/C, turning radius, Duramax commands top dollar, but no power benefit since it still comes with a 4L80E.

Dodge Pros: Um.... can't think of any.
Dodge Cons: Um... don't get me started.

Edit.... thought I'd add this. A week after I bought my 99 'stroke E350, I hitched up 12,000 lbs and towed 3500 miles round trip in 6 days. A week after that I towed 10,000 lbs for 1500 miles in 2 days. Every time I stopped and checked the tranny fluid, it was mildly warm to the touch. I averaged about 10 mpg with 12k lbs of trailer (and a loaded van), and I'm getting 18-22mpg empty.

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