In reply to MrJoshua:
I have a GS400 that has only had the ball joints out of those items in the first 226K. Anecdotal, I know.
In any case, that is maybe $3K for all that stuff over a lifetime. A 740 can run you that much A YEAR in repairs.
In reply to MrJoshua:
I have a GS400 that has only had the ball joints out of those items in the first 226K. Anecdotal, I know.
In any case, that is maybe $3K for all that stuff over a lifetime. A 740 can run you that much A YEAR in repairs.
howable early 8 series? I find them with no miles drit cheap
GrantMLS wrote: howable early 8 series? I find them with no miles drit cheap
For all the reasons discussed above, one of the few engines I would like to own (over the long-term, as in pay to maintain) less than a BMW V8 is a BMW V12. Basically two I6s joined at the crank with two of everything, including ECUs. The 8-series gives you a choice of these two engines. Enjoy.
mad_machine wrote: it is a luxury car for the affluent.. which, unless it is a 50 year old Roller, nothing is worse than an older luxury car for the country club set
huh?
He is saying that if you're a rich person concerned with status symbols, driving an older luxury car is a faux paus unless it is somehow a desirable antique. A such, they won't be driving them until they fall apart; they'll be getting a new one every 5 years or so.
the boston CL has 2-3 challenge priced BMWs a day, some less than 10 years old...
Too bad when I get out there I will be in an appartment complex where building a challenge car(in the parking lot
) would be... Frowned upon.
In reply to Brett_Murphy:
Rich people around here must not have got the memo. A ten year old Lexus or BMW is more common than a new one in the executive parking lot here at work. Young professionals seem to have the newest and nicest cars. A work friend had a 740. He dumped it after it completely drained his wallet. A $4000 transmission was the last straw.
GrantMLS wrote: howable early 8 series? I find them with no miles drit cheap
How "dirt cheap"? Because the other half wants one, an 8 series will be in my future at some point... maintenance and repair costs be damned...
Ian F wrote:GrantMLS wrote: howable early 8 series? I find them with no miles drit cheapHow "dirt cheap"? Because the other half wants one, an 8 series will be in my future at some point... maintenance and repair costs be damned...
I know in the X5 online community having an extended warranty is considered a must.
MrJoshua wrote:Ian F wrote:I know in the X5 online community having an extended warranty is considered a must.GrantMLS wrote: howable early 8 series? I find them with no miles drit cheapHow "dirt cheap"? Because the other half wants one, an 8 series will be in my future at some point... maintenance and repair costs be damned...
The same thing is said in the E65/66 7-series community. I bought mine as a CPO and BMW spent somewhere in the neighborhood fo $11k on it from 48k to 100k miles, and I spent another $1.5k in preventative maintenance. A good chunk of that $11k was electrical issues associated with the idrive controller that ultimately I determined (the dealer failed to figure it out) were due to using a burned backup of my navigation DVD instead of the original. Both water pumps failed, comfort access door handles were replaced 3 or 4 times, and there were other problems. I'm living on borrowed time now that I've got 112k miles on it, waiting for the next big failure. That being said, I'll never sell this car.
In reply to pigeon:
That sounds pretty typical, actually not too bad. How much do you figure it has depreciated in the time you've owned it?
In reply to Otto Maddox:
Roughly 25-30k. Thanks for reminding me :(
I seriously considered a 750iL before I ended up with the '95 LS400. Until I looked up common repair costs. The cats are a "common failure" and just the parts are $3,600. That told me everything I needed to know.
The LS400 has needed a starter and brakes in ~50,000 miles. Only the 1st gen had the problem with the instrument cluster.
MrJoshua wrote: I know in the X5 online community having an extended warranty is considered a must.
I'm going to assume that even the newest 8 series is well past the point of any sort of warranty.
Ever noticed how "750iL" has "oil" right there in the name? Should be a sign about gas mileage.
Ian F wrote:MrJoshua wrote: I know in the X5 online community having an extended warranty is considered a must.I'm going to assume that even the newest 8 series is well past the point of any sort of warranty.
Really not sure about that one. I have a client with a service warranty on his, but he has had it for years and may have just been allowed to renew it.
The irony is that luxury car makes do not have to engineer in long life. Expectations from buyers are that they will need to dump the car as soon as the warranty is over and they budget accordingly.
Consequently, manufactures have no interest in supporting anything over 5 years old and are happy to see them go to the scrap heap.
I made the same observation about 7 series price as the op, and I decided against looking into them further once I found out how many of them need new transmissions. Even w140 mecedes seem to be more durable than the 7 series (judging by the fact that most of the ghetto beaters I see are ls400s and w140s, the q45s are mostly gone now too).
i strongly considered the $1200 750iL that ansonivan had for sale here on the forum, until i looked up common tune-up parts and the plug wires were north of $1100 from rock auto.
i think if you want a big mid 90's luxury car without the big repair bills my answer is 94-96 fleetwood. huge, LT1 power and simplicity(opti blah blah), cheap GM parts prices. no matter how many bmw's i lust after and look at, i always come back to the big caddy when i daydream about buying a luxury car. then i remember it's just an 8" longer caprice with fancy bits and end up buying the chevy for pennies.
I can't imagine a b-body being in the same category though, I drove one time and it was way too much like a recliner instead of a car, and I couldn't stand the over assisted power steering.
Travis_K wrote: I can't imagine a b-body being in the same category though, I drove one time and it was way too much like a recliner instead of a car, and I couldn't stand the over assisted power steering.
In my BMW experience: yeah they lean a lot, but once they lean they settle into a highly predictable and fairly high cornering limit. My American sedan experience is that they lean a lot, and then throw two or three more lousy cornering experiences at you.
Just saw a 1991 740iL on Harrisburg Craiglist for $1000. 106K miles. Claims runs perfectly. Yea. Stupid cheap.
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