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ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory Reader
4/12/13 7:53 p.m.

I realize that my last post was about fox bodied Mustangs but in my Craigslist searches I kept coming across Taurus and Sable wagons.

I hate to admit that they're exactly what I NEED. But could they ever be what I WANT? Can these be fun? I mean its fwd, auto and V6 and is pretty much the opposite of a fox or sn95 but I can't get my love for the body style and assumed utility out of my mind.

Kill me now.

Donebrokeit
Donebrokeit HalfDork
4/12/13 7:56 p.m.

Click here

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/200x-classifieds/i-like-this-guy/62934/page1/

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic Dork
4/12/13 8:08 p.m.

Big squishy floaty things, like a FoMoCo Buick. Not fun, just comfy. .

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory Reader
4/12/13 8:12 p.m.
Kenny_McCormic wrote: Big squishy floaty things, like a FoMoCo Buick. Not fun, just comfy. .

GR2's, SHO front sway bar and good tires.... Maybe? Huh? Anyone?

Jaxmadine
Jaxmadine New Reader
4/12/13 8:23 p.m.

Dual cams arnt bad. You can mod anything with enough skill. I like them as well for some odd reason. Maybea contour wagon? Lots more aftermarket for it.

Appleseed
Appleseed UltimaDork
4/12/13 8:34 p.m.

HappyAndy
HappyAndy SuperDork
4/12/13 8:36 p.m.
Jaxmadine wrote: Dual cams arnt bad. You can mod anything with enough skill. I like them as well for some odd reason. Maybea contour wagon? Lots more aftermarket for it.

Was there ever a Contour wagon in the US?

I was seriously contemplating a Taurus /Sable wagon for my wife about a year or so ago. Really nice ones can be found for pocket change if your patient, and they are durable & cheap to maintain. My wife's champagne taste put the kaibash on that plan though.

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory Reader
4/12/13 8:50 p.m.

In reply to Appleseed: ha! I actually saw that one a few minutes ago on Google Images! Ever seen the chop-top?

Jaxmadine
Jaxmadine New Reader
4/13/13 9:31 a.m.

In reply to HappyAndy: I dnt think it was. Maybe just wishful thinking?

belteshazzar
belteshazzar UberDork
4/13/13 10:15 a.m.

i love them. i think making them fun to drive is a waste of time. find one with the vulcan and just enjoy simple cheap transportation.

fanfoy
fanfoy Reader
4/13/13 10:31 a.m.

I think they are fun to drive stock. They are sloooooow, but fun. I remember letting the tail step out in my sister's vulcan equipped sedan when I was a teenage. I would love a SHO wagon, but I think it would be too unreliable for DD duty, and too heavy for track duty, so pretty much useless.

Raze
Raze UltraDork
4/13/13 10:50 a.m.

there was a vulcan supercharger kit once upon a time ago for the Ford Ranger, wonder if it fits...

Vigo
Vigo UltraDork
4/13/13 10:54 a.m.

Are early SHOs unreliable somehow? The main unreliability point i see is the auto trans if one were to keep it. Taurus ones are famous for either stripping the pump shaft splines in the torque converter or snapping the shaft in half which leaves you with no movement in either case.

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory Reader
4/13/13 12:30 p.m.
fanfoy wrote: I think they are fun to drive stock. They are sloooooow, but fun. I remember letting the tail step out in my sister's vulcan equipped sedan when I was a teenage. I would love a SHO wagon, but I think it would be too unreliable for DD duty, and too heavy for track duty, so pretty much useless.

Why Vulcan? I ask because the Duratec is about 45 more hp. Unless I have it backward? Reliability differences?

Jaxmadine
Jaxmadine New Reader
4/13/13 12:49 p.m.

Ohv 3.0 tend to burn valves. Don't know which one that's called.

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic Dork
4/13/13 1:02 p.m.

The OHV "Vulcan" 3.0 is one of those cockroach engines that is known to take a E36 M3load of abuse and not break.

Jaxmadine
Jaxmadine New Reader
4/13/13 1:10 p.m.

Ah, I've seen 5 in the past 2 monhs that needed a head due to a burned valve. While they drove them out, wouldn't call it indestructable.

belteshazzar
belteshazzar UberDork
4/13/13 1:27 p.m.

i've been a car dealer for over 15 years. i do not recall ever seeing a dead or even wounded vulcan engine.

yamaha
yamaha UltraDork
4/13/13 1:51 p.m.
Vigo wrote: Are early SHOs unreliable somehow? The main unreliability point i see is the auto trans if one were to keep it. Taurus ones are famous for either stripping the pump shaft splines in the torque converter or snapping the shaft in half which leaves you with no movement in either case.

They are reliable if maintained properly......there have only been a few sho swapped wagons ever done.

The 3L dohc duratec can handle boost, and you can swap the duratec to a manual using a contour gearbox.

The later duratec is a very reliable engine....and not that slow in wagons(high 15-low16's in the 1/4)

m4ff3w
m4ff3w GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
4/13/13 2:18 p.m.
Vigo wrote: Are early SHOs unreliable somehow? The main unreliability point i see is the auto trans if one were to keep it. Taurus ones are famous for either stripping the pump shaft splines in the torque converter or snapping the shaft in half which leaves you with no movement in either case.

Pump shaft sheared in my wife's '95. It wasn't that bad of a fix, but only re-enforced why I hate autotragics.

fornetti14
fornetti14 GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
4/13/13 2:24 p.m.

I had one for a year. '00 Sable with the dual cam V6. OK for what it was, but I'll never own another. I sold it to by my Mazda6 with a standard transmission. Life is worth living again.

4g63t
4g63t HalfDork
4/13/13 7:03 p.m.

I used to work on one of the two SHO wagons ever built by FORD.

Vigo
Vigo UltraDork
4/14/13 12:03 a.m.
Pump shaft sheared in my wife's '95. It wasn't that bad of a fix, but only re-enforced why I hate autotragics.

Yeah, its a lot worse when you tear into it far enough to find out it's actually the converter and have to take the rest of the transmission out (including subframe on all the 95+).

yamaha
yamaha UltraDork
4/14/13 12:27 a.m.

I still want my friends first gen sable wagon that has a complete mtx sho swap done to it......aside from the slicer wheels, you would never know it was reasonably quick.

jere
jere Reader
4/14/13 11:48 a.m.

Weren't the SHOs quicker than the Mustangs of the day? That and the fact that the local junkyard is littered with non wagon SHOs, sounds like it might be a good project

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