I am just a bit short, which is a bummer because these don't cross the block too often.
I am just a bit short, which is a bummer because these don't cross the block too often.
That is not the Pontiac I was expecting...
I laughed. Good one!
I like this part:
•Delivered new in June 1985 to Algar Enterprises in Paoli, Pennsylvania, apparently for the personal use of Al Garthwaite
•Never registered by Garthwaite
They actually cross the block more often than you'd think. Every year at Monterey and Amelia Island there is at least one for sale. I know because they grab me like few other cars. This was the car on my bedroom wall when I was a teenager. Heck.....if I had a decent poster it would still be on my wall.
Up close, they get even sexier!
such pretty cars. Excellent thread titling.
I cannot see spending that sort of cash when you can get he F40 for half of what a GTO is going for. The F40 will always be loved and you can use it.
What are we thinking 2.1-2.4 million.
I would be happy with a clapped out 458. I am hoping that the 458 stays "cheap" as they made a fair number of them. I tested drove one a coupple years back while my friend was purchasing his new Bentley. It was the best at nothing by the numbers but was absolutely fantastic at everything.
That's just a tick beyond my used car/toy budget for this month.
For that kind of cash I could buy a Mustang. A P-51 Mustang. And all the accossiated maintenence. And have more fun dieing, too!
dean1484 wrote: I would be happy with a clapped out 458. I am hoping that the 458 stays "cheap" as they made a fair number of them. I tested drove one a coupple years back while my friend was purchasing his new Bentley. It was the best at nothing by the numbers but was absolutely fantastic at everything.
458's are getting cheap now. I have seen two now trade hands sub 100K, both with monster miles though. 80-90K.
Wish the 430 spiders would keep dropping as well.
I'd be happy with a Fiero or MR2 Kit Car with a Horse slapped on the front 
What IS the "cheap" Ferrari these days, now that the 308/328 have gone up in price? 355? 360?
That's a lot of money for a hotrodded 308. Looks like the plugs would be a blast to change.
Furious_E wrote: What IS the "cheap" Ferrari these days, now that the 308/328 have gone up in price? 355? 360?
You can pick up a F1 trans 360 with 30-40k on that clock for 60-70k.
The "bargain" Ferraris these days are the Mondial, the 308 GT4, and the 400i. They can all be had for under $30K.
The newer Ferraris are wonderful when new.....but can be nightmares down the road due to parts unavailability and cost. (355, 360, 430, 458, etc)
quote from www.Ferraris-online.com
A plug-in computer for a GM or Japanese car starts at $250 and goes to $5,000 for the best model, but the SD2 or SD3 box for the 10-years-or-older Ferrari is out of production.
A used SD2 or SD3 will cost $20k plus — if you can find one. A more modern Leonardo unit is available, but even at $25k, it doesn’t like to communicate with the earlier cars. Want to use a non-Ferrari diagnostic computer? Sorry, Ferrari uses nonstandard codes that don’t translate to standard OBD2 boxes. Simply knowing what to repair or replace can be a nightmare.
In reply to Joe Gearin:
LS swap?
Brian wrote: In reply to Joe Gearin: LS swap?
Who knows, in 15 years you may be able to pick up a 360 for pennies on the dollar, as they will be hideously expensive to restore. Then the idea of gutting, cutting an mutilating may make sense. For now, Ferrari is off my list. I really wanted a 308 a few years back, but I hesitated, and now they are way beyond my pay scale! 
I still want a 550 Maranello. Unfortunately, I'm not alone... 
(sigh...)
In reply to Ian F: Aren't those the Ferrari that happens to look similar to the C6 Corvette, which is much cheaper to maintain and purchase?
Plus, once or twice a year a car is listed is still seldom.
Joe Gearin wrote: The "bargain" Ferraris these days are the Mondial, the 308 GT4, and the 400i. They can all be had for under $30K.
Even the 308GT4 isn't that cheap anymore. The 400series with the auto are reasonable, but not with a 5spd. 348s still aren't too bad. Anything Ferrari with a manual is absurd money.
If you ask me, the aircooled Porsches and stick Ferraris are in quite a bubble. I think they will come back down a good bit.
I do think an F1 360 will be the cheap Ferrari of the future.
mrjre42 wrote:Furious_E wrote: What IS the "cheap" Ferrari these days, now that the 308/328 have gone up in price? 355? 360?You can pick up a F1 trans 360 with 30-40k on that clock for 60-70k.
The F1 trans is the same trans as the manual, just hydraulically controlled. A few people have toyed with selling conversion kits as prices of the manuals have gone crazy. I think there is real opportunity here. Especially when you lookup the price of replacing the F1 pump.
Makes me want to find the thread about the Ferrari with a Subaru engine swap.
From an investment standpoint that was probably not such a good idea. From an awesome standpoint, it will still be awesome once it's done.
Mr_Clutch42 wrote: In reply to Ian F: Aren't those the Ferrari that happens to look similar to the C6 Corvette, which is much cheaper to maintain and purchase?
If I wanted a Corvette, I could buy one now. I don't want one.
Plus, once or twice a year a car is listed is still seldom.
What?
For now, Ferrari is off my list. I really wanted a 308 a few years back, but I hesitated, and now they are way beyond my pay scale!
Similar situation here. I've watched enough cars i wanted get close to what i wanted to spend and then shoot up in price just as i was getting serious. Ive recently gone on a little bit of a limb to prevent another ship from sailing on me, but who knows if it will work out. I havent taken delivery yet.
Honestly, i was hoping 360s would keep dropping. It looks like they are already heading up. That is not as hard for me to swallow since i have never yet been in a position to spend what they were worth at the bottom of the curve. Always out of reach is a little easier than 'you slept on it and your chance is gone'.
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