Time capsule other than the radial tires. What other 50-year-old car in this condition would cost less?
Time capsule other than the radial tires. What other 50-year-old car in this condition would cost less?
There is a stigma behind them that they catch fire when you touch them.
Brakes were awful
They never command the money they should, but that is cheap.
curtis73 wrote: Brakes were awful
If it used the same brakes as the transaxle Tempest (same chassis, no?) then it was the same boring 9" drum Bendix brakes that were standard equipment on a whole lot of other cars.
Corvairs are a bit on an engima in the collector car world.
They're a great car and an economical way to get into a classic but they never trade for big money.
Corvairs have cost $20,000 maximum for the last ten years. They're due for a jump in price but I just don't see it happening.
Sad that an Isettta is worth more but is totally useless in modern traffic. You can actually use and enjoy a Corvair.
patgizz wrote: I'd probably put a v8 in it
^ This sadly...
The only thing that would make this car stand-out is a mid engine V8 swap. What a great foundation if you could get your hands on a Kennedy kit.
Think of all the bodywork and paint you would NOT have to do and the moral outrage you could cause at the Corvair conventions!
curtis73 wrote: ....Brakes were awful....
Uhm, no, not really. For a drum brake car, they have very good brakes. Same brakes as a Chevelle (ends swapped), but a much lighter car.
As far as value, there is one BIG exception. One of these will add at least $50,000 to the value:
I have yet to talk to anyone who actually enjoyed their mid-engined Corvair. All I've head is that with the traditional middie transaxle setup, it's terribly loud and hot and leaves you with a bare minimum of legroom. A much better plan IMO would be to do a Subaru gears tranny reversal and stick a 3.6 H6 in the rear-engined config. With proper seats, disc brakes, and some steering/suspension tweaks you'd have a relatively cheap restomod that keeps the character of the original - while being a damn bit faster.
But don't do that to this car. I's far too nice.
aircooled wrote:
According to Hemmings, "Yenko Sportscars built approximately 115 Stingers between 1966 and 1969, a full 100 of them in 1966. They also modified another 30 or so customer cars, which received Yenko serial number tags."
Why would they use a serial number in the 400s?
NOHOME wrote:patgizz wrote: I'd probably put a v8 in it^ This sadly... The only thing that would make this car stand-out is a mid engine V8 swap. What a great foundation if you could get your hands on a Kennedy kit. Think of all the bodywork and paint you would NOT have to do and the moral outrage you could cause at the Corvair conventions!
HA! hate to break it to you, but you're not going to cause any outrage with a mid engine V8 Corvair at a Corvair convention. There have been enough of them made over the years that it's common to see several at a Corvair convention.
That being said, I do not care for the V8 conversions, they are not my cup of tea. I think it's truly unique to own a rear engined American car.
Woody wrote:aircooled wrote:According to Hemmings, "Yenko Sportscars built approximately 115 Stingers between 1966 and 1969, a full 100 of them in 1966. They also modified another 30 or so customer cars, which received Yenko serial number tags." Why would they use a serial number in the 400s?
Because it's a fake serial tag.
Yeah, sorry, in a quick search I could not find a pic of a real one. Clonesburg is good though.
Regarding V8's: I think the current trend, with a bit more money being thrown at them, in not using the Corvair transaxle. A Porsche is a decent option (requires a rear suspension rebuild), but another decent option is to use a FWD setup (making hot V6's and I4 an option).
The "no room" comment is exactly why I have never had one. They are VERY short on leg room! If you look at the interior of a late model, and look at the arm rest, the rearmost point of the arm rest is where the seat back is! The brutal nature of the engine placment, I would consider that a plus!
I did see one at a Corvair gathering that had a twin turbo V8 in it. The left side turbo was about a foot behind the drivers head, behind some plexiglass... I cannot imagine how loud that was!
My big money option would be to put a late aircooled Porsche drivetrain in one. I have seen one on the internet years ago, but have not seen it since.
In reply to Kramer:
Not necessary. The prices of Corvairs have gone up significantly in the last few years. The Turbo cars are getting the highest amount of money aside from the Stingers, both Early and Late models. Fully restored Turbo cars are starting to sell in the high teens, maybe low 20's depending on if it's a Coupe of Covertible. There have been a couple that have sold at auction in the mid 20's, but I take that with a grain of salt, because auctions don't reflect real world sales.
A low miles, unrestored, Turbo Coupe is only going to be worth $10k, but a fully restored one will be worth significantly more.
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