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Adrian_Thompson (Forum Supporter)
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4/9/20 7:40 a.m.
therealpinto said:

With that being said, though, it would of course be possible to design a euro-style rallycross series that is less expensive than my examples. 

We have a simpler version called "Folkrace", usually driven on shortened rallycross tracks. The idea behind that is to make it simple and easy by using a system where all cars are for sale after the event, at a set price (750 dollars now I think). Anyone is allowed to place a bid on any car and "winners" are drawn. Initial thinking was that it would prohibit people to spend too much money and time on a car you're not certain to keep. Soon people realized that if you place enough bids on your own car (or have family and friends doing so) the chance of winning it back is high enough to risk it.  I couldn't stand loosing my car after a race but some people like it.

Folkrace is entertaining though :-) https://youtu.be/2CTIVPUTOL8

Gustaf

Wow, that's awesome.  What are the names of some tracks so I can look at them on Google maps?  Also, how many Volvo 240's and Classic Saab 900's are still available over there?  They are too uncomon to be used like this over here these days.

Aaron_King
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4/9/20 7:51 a.m.
MrChaos said:

just do it like staduim super trucks, basically pro 2/lite off road series trucks with ramps added to different parts of the track.

Watching those SST's run around Mid Ohio was way cooler than I thought it would be.

 

DeadSkunk  (Warren)
DeadSkunk (Warren) PowerDork
4/9/20 8:07 a.m.

In reply to Aaron_King :

We've watched those trucks two or three times. I originally thought it was a dumb idea, but I quickly changed my mind. They're hilariously entertaining to watch. You can see how hard the drivers have to work to control them.

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
4/9/20 8:10 a.m.
DeadSkunk (Warren) said:

In reply to Aaron_King :

We've watched those trucks two or three times. I originally thought it was a dumb idea, but I quickly changed my mind. They're hilariously entertaining to watch. You can see how hard the drivers have to work to control them.

3 wheeling all the turns.

therealpinto
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4/9/20 8:18 a.m.
Adrian_Thompson (Forum Supporter) said:

Wow, that's awesome.  What are the names of some tracks so I can look at them on Google maps?  Also, how many Volvo 240's and Classic Saab 900's are still available over there?  They are too uncomon to be used like this over here these days.

Folkrace tracks are spread all over the country. Some of them I know;

Klutmarksbanan, our local track: 64.710887, 20.775694

Lycksele Motorstadion: 64.597865, 18.789495

Kalvholmen Motorstadion: 59.371885, 13.540711

The last one is where they run NGK Masters, a festival that sort of is the unoffical championship, where some "star drivers" are invited. This year for example Andreas Bakkerud and Johan Kristofferson competed.

The 240's and 900's both (classic and "new generation") are reasonably available still, though the numbers are decreasing. The Saab 99 and 900 are very popular because of the very solid body and the fender construction, since it generally won't cut into tyres easily. Most of the cars built for folkrace are way past their useful street life but of course that differs too. They also have an amazingly long life as a "race car".

Gustaf

 

 

Pete. (l33t FS)
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4/9/20 8:42 a.m.

In reply to therealpinto :

That is where things get odd...  "useful street life" in the US is usually long beyond when a vehicle might be useful for any kind of motorsports.  People drive cars until they stop moving, fix the bare minimum, and then keep going.  Even in areas where there are vehicle inspections, the inspections are laughable.

 

I would not want to drive in any kind of competiton where the suspension is literally in danger of falling off of the floorpan, but this is not uncommon to see on the street.

Adrian_Thompson (Forum Supporter)
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4/9/20 10:09 a.m.

In reply to therealpinto :

Cool, they all look to be about 1.5km in length or so?  I like they are in more industrial areas so no noise complaints.  thx.

 

Adrian_Thompson (Forum Supporter)
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4/9/20 10:10 a.m.

So if you watched the vid I linked in the first post of this thread you saw the state of the art in 1988, this one is just five years earlier in 1983, same even British Rallycross GP.

https://youtu.be/kv_qOeOLYMg

Man things moved a lot in 5 years.

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