ScottRA21
ScottRA21 HalfDork
2/6/16 11:27 p.m.

Just up the road from where I work, this guy has a back yard full of cars. 69 Camaro SS 396 (Numbers Matching apparently) Some 90's Mercedes, a G-body, a 50's Olds, I think a MG Midget...with a hard top? He also has a 1985 Toyota Celica GT. That had gone and grown some greenery over the years. Last insured for 10 years ago.

Seeing this thing pretty much everyday, I got distracted by it. Talked to some of my co-workers about, and said I'd probably go up and talk to the guy about it some day.

A couple days later, my coworker comes back from break having talked to the guy, "$300, but it burns oil. A lot of oil, says it makes clouds of smoke."

....$300, for a Celica with surprisingly little rust? And it supposedly runs?! Too good to be true.

It didn't run. Turned over perfectly well, it wanted to run, but it was presumed that 10 year old gas just...doesn't burn well enough.

I mull it over for a few days...but who am I kidding? I had to.

Well, after buying it, I waited until today to try and get it home. Push it out of its resting spot, and down the hill to my work (Car detailing shop), give the tires some air, and then use a siphon pump to empty the tank, full of rancid old gas. Bought a remanned battery, and a jerry of gas.

Cranked over and started like a 22RE should. Just...with an epic smoke show.

Drove it up and down the block a bit, making sure the brakes were in working order, suspension wasn't going to crumble or anything else. Did find that; A) Fuel gauge, does not work. B) Driver's side mirror is busted. C) Rear defrost does not exist. D) Radio still works, sort of. Connections to the speakers seem imperfect, and it doesn't even have a tape player, but it is original.

E) Everything else seems to work flawlessly.

Those who know about these Celicas, know that the hatch is usually turned into swiss cheese. This one, even after just sitting for 10 years in Victoria, BC, uncovered, has only two, small spots of rust:

Interior has a faint bit of mould, in the rear passenger's footwell. I vacuumed that out for now. Otherwise, the interior is pretty damn...minty, which is faintly surprising.

After giving it a quick wash, I drove it home, no issues, no drama, just me chuckling like an idiot in 5:00 downtown Victoria traffic on a Saturday, with a car that smells like a 2 stroke. Does have a noticeable vibration when driving at 90-100 kph. That's it. Got home, and parked it.

I am quite pleased. Neighbor might have a line on a used 22RE with a blown headgasket that might be the best price ever...Free. As this one in the car, I'm guessing it's the valve guides leaking oil, which seems like more of a pain in the ass than replacing a headgasket.

G_Body_Man
G_Body_Man Dork
2/6/16 11:45 p.m.

What a steal!

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
2/6/16 11:50 p.m.

That vibration is very likely simply flat spotted tires

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
2/6/16 11:58 p.m.

Blown head gaskets usually mean rebuilding the head. They like to warp. If you do dig in, replace the timing chain guides. They're plastic and break. I had one throw chunks in the pan with only 94,000mi.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/7/16 12:08 a.m.

That's amazing. I love those cars.

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
2/7/16 12:14 a.m.

at least the 22re has a somewhat decent aftermarket, mostly in the truck world but still a decent aftermarket. Also nearly bulletproof.

ScottRA21
ScottRA21 HalfDork
2/7/16 12:16 a.m.
captdownshift wrote: That vibration is very likely simply flat spotted tires

Yeah, most likely. The tires do need to be replaced. I chanced it, driving home on them, given that they have some pretty...uhm....gnarly cracking on the sidewall, where it was bulged out from being nearly dead flat.

Appleseed wrote: Blown head gaskets usually mean rebuilding the head. They like to warp. If you do dig in, replace the timing chain guides. They're plastic and break. I had one throw chunks in the pan with only 94,000mi.

Good point...going to cost a good chunk either way I suppose. Well, I'll see what comes up when I get there.

mblommel
mblommel GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
2/7/16 8:52 a.m.

Have you done a compression test on the motor in the car yet?

Any plans for a M/T swap?

Great score!

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk UltraDork
2/7/16 9:00 a.m.

Victoria has so many older cars for it's size. I see something interesting every time I visit the area.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/7/16 9:03 a.m.

The fuel gauge is probably a sender varnished over from stewing in old fuel. I've had good luck with taking them out and hitting them generously with carb cleaner and a toothbrush. If you've never seen one up cloae and personal, it's a contact that sweeps across a long coil of resistance wire or something. A very large, open to the elements potentiometer.

ScottRA21
ScottRA21 HalfDork
2/7/16 10:01 a.m.
mblommel wrote: Have you done a compression test on the motor in the car yet? Any plans for a M/T swap? Great score!

Not for a while, but it is something I definitely wish to do. I feel it is a shame that this thing is saddled with an auto.

Compression test hasn't been done yet, I will do it probably next weekend...or...maybe this weekend. See what happens.

Knurled wrote: The fuel gauge is probably a sender varnished over from stewing in old fuel. I've had good luck with taking them out and hitting them generously with carb cleaner and a toothbrush. If you've never seen one up cloae and personal, it's a contact that sweeps across a long coil of resistance wire or something. A very large, open to the elements potentiometer.

Thank you for the idea, I will definitely try that!

mblommel
mblommel GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
2/7/16 11:09 a.m.
ScottRA21 wrote:
mblommel wrote: Have you done a compression test on the motor in the car yet? Any plans for a M/T swap? Great score!
Not for a while, but it is something I definitely wish to do. I feel it is a shame that this thing is saddled with an auto. Compression test hasn't been done yet, I will do it probably next weekend...or...maybe this weekend. See what happens.

I was thinking a compression test might tell you if it's the valve stem seals that are causing the smoke and oil consumption. If that is the case it seems like it would be easier to pull the head and have it re-done rather than swapping to an unknown condition engine.

I'd be willing to bet you could find a M/T donor car for cheap if you keep your eye out.

The interior on that car looks outstanding.

If it were mine I'd fix the engine, swap to M/T and find a set of these wheels:

ScottRA21
ScottRA21 HalfDork
2/7/16 1:15 p.m.

Yeah, I will probably go to my brother in law's father's, later today and get a compression check done. Right now though, I am on the cheap, low on cash so a lot of things are going to have to wait. Like a manual swap.

One of my eventual plans, is to do an engine swap that I've been trying to convince other people to do for like, the past 8 or so years: Suzuki H27A V6. Need to hunt for a "Unicorn" of an XL7 that is a 5 speed manual, and 2wd. Or a second gen GV with the 2.7 and a 5 speed.

Supposed to be between 260 and 300 lbs, not sure on the weight of the trans. 180 hp, and torque. Engine is...vaguely similar to the Mazda KL engines, but closed deck, chain driven, and non-siamesed bores. Been wanting to try this for a while, so...eventually I will be hunting for a donor.

noddaz
noddaz GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/7/16 7:32 p.m.

What? No LS?

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
2/7/16 8:43 p.m.

Valve guides never go out on those. More likely a BHG on the one you got. Less likely a bad piston/ring. Do a compression test/leak down. A new head cost me less than getting a valve job on my old head a few years ago. engnbldr is your friend. Get the metal timing chain rails when you swap that head or gasket out. Head gaskets are a 100K mile (that's, like a kazillion kilomaters on Canada) maintenance item.

ScottRA21
ScottRA21 HalfDork
2/7/16 9:10 p.m.
noddaz wrote: What? No LS?

LS is the new Small Block; everyone and their mother, their grandmother, even their dogs has it. Because it works, it makes sense, etc.

But god damn it gets boring to hear about. Besides, Most powerful thing I've driven in my life, is my father's 2014 Dodge Ram 1500 with the 5.7. My daily is a 2001 Kia Sportage (Yes...a Kia FE-DOHC swap has crossed my mind as well). so...180 hp in the Celica should be plenty of entertainment for an idjit like me. Also....getting weight off the front of a front heavy car, seems like a generally good idea.

Dr. Hess, thank you, and I do plan on it. Was going to do a compression test/leak down test today. Except I forgot that my voltmeter was reading 12v yesterday. Read 12v today, and was reading about 5 or 6v when the car sputtered and coughed to death going up a hill on a backroad to my brother-in-law's father's.

Need to look at the alternator, and connections.

Cooper_Tired
Cooper_Tired Reader
2/7/16 9:12 p.m.

Awesome pick up!

sirrichardpumpaloaf
sirrichardpumpaloaf Reader
2/7/16 9:32 p.m.

Reading these threads is like someone on the wagon reading about guys going out and getting plastered for fun. Makes me want to buy something I don't need right now!!

Cool score for sure. Congrats!!!

ScottRA21
ScottRA21 HalfDork
2/7/16 9:41 p.m.

In reply to sirrichardpumpaloaf:

We are enablers. A forum of enablers. You need another hit man.

Powar
Powar UltraDork
2/8/16 10:05 a.m.

Damnit. I wish the interior of mine (also blue) was that clean.

GREAT buy.

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