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Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos)
Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/8/25 3:29 p.m.

I predict it'll sell for more than $50,000

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/8/25 3:32 p.m.

Apparently MSRP on a 1994 R1 was $39,500. That's over $85k today. They were not a cheap date.

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
1/8/25 3:38 p.m.
Keith Tanner said:

Apparently MSRP on a 1994 R1 was $39,500. That's over $85k today. They were not a cheap date.

Yeah, the prices went up a lot every year because the yen was rising rapidly against the dollar in the early 90s.  I think '93s were like $5K cheaper and '95s were even more.  This (along with OBD2) is a big part of what killed the Japanese super cars in the US.

 

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/8/25 4:26 p.m.

Even if it were $5k cheaper, that's still north of $77k today. Still not a cheap date. I always thought of RX-7s being a price level up from Miatas, not twice as much. Although I'm clearly wrong, the 1994 Miata started at almost exactly half of the RX-7.

WonkoTheSane
WonkoTheSane GRM+ Memberand UberDork
1/8/25 4:33 p.m.
Keith Tanner said:

Even if it were $5k cheaper, that's still north of $77k today. Still not a cheap date. I always thought of RX-7s being a price level up from Miatas, not twice as much. Although I'm clearly wrong, the 1994 Miata started at almost exactly half of the RX-7.

It's always been that way... When I bought my 2008 rx-8 GT, I think it was 31k MSRP vs. a Miata GT package was like 22 or 22k.  Although I think the prhts were higher, like 26-8k?

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/8/25 4:49 p.m.

In reply to WonkoTheSane :

That's a price level up. Miatas started at just over $20k in 2008, the RX-8 started at $27k so it's about 35% more. The RX-7s were listed for twice the Miata, 100% more.

Someday I need to plot annual Miata prices in real money. Here's a snapshot of a few different years. I didn't realize the NC came with a price drop. 

1990: $13,800 (June 1989, $35,083.02 today)
2004: $22,098 ($36,751.53)
2006: $20,435 ($36,751.53)
2008: $20,635 ($29,752.06)
2015: $23,970 ($36,751.53)
2025: $29,330

WonkoTheSane
WonkoTheSane GRM+ Memberand UberDork
1/8/25 5:03 p.m.

In reply to Keith Tanner :

Fair enough, I only bought a new rx8, and only ever used rx7s :)

I guess the shared chassis of the NCs brought the price down!

amg_rx7 (Forum Supporter)
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1/8/25 5:05 p.m.
codrus (Forum Supporter) said:
Keith Tanner said:

Apparently MSRP on a 1994 R1 was $39,500. That's over $85k today. They were not a cheap date.

Yeah, the prices went up a lot every year because the yen was rising rapidly against the dollar in the early 90s.  I think '93s were like $5K cheaper and '95s were even more.  This (along with OBD2) is a big part of what killed the Japanese super cars in the US.

 

Yep  I priced a 93 R1 at a dealer at around $25k  in 1993  

Keith Tanner
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1/8/25 5:09 p.m.
amg_rx7 (Forum Supporter) said:
codrus (Forum Supporter) said:
Keith Tanner said:

Apparently MSRP on a 1994 R1 was $39,500. That's over $85k today. They were not a cheap date.

Yeah, the prices went up a lot every year because the yen was rising rapidly against the dollar in the early 90s.  I think '93s were like $5K cheaper and '95s were even more.  This (along with OBD2) is a big part of what killed the Japanese super cars in the US.

 

Yep  I priced a 93 R1 at a dealer at around $25k  in 1993  

Everything I can find says that the base RX-7 MSRP in 1993 started at $32,500.

Here's a 1993 RX-7 window sticker from a Touring on Bring a Trailer.

Ah, here's a 1993 R1. $1000 option. I found one for a 1994 as well, the price jumped by $4000 that year. If a dealer was selling an R1 for $8000 off when it was still the current model year, they were hurting pretty badly.

Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos)
Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/9/25 10:20 a.m.

I'd forgotten that Mazda's tagline used to be "It just feels right."

I think my favorite one was Zoom Zoom, mainly because the dealer gave you a little Zoom Zoom sticker to put on your car.

codrus (Forum Supporter)
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1/9/25 11:22 a.m.
Keith Tanner said:

Ah, here's a 1993 R1. $1000 option. I found one for a 1994 as well, the price jumped by $4000 that year. If a dealer was selling an R1 for $8000 off when it was still the current model year, they were hurting pretty badly.

Yeah, that sounds about right.  With the FD, Mazda had a car that was a Porsche fighter, but they didn't use Porsche style pricing where they charged you twice as much to delete heavy things from the car. :)

The rapid escalation in price matches (well, inverse) the rapid drop in sales numbers of the FD.  They sold 10K of them in '93, 3K in '94, and only about 500 in '95.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 MegaDork
1/9/25 12:07 p.m.

Old guy chimes in with:

I remember looking wistfully at a black RX-7 TII at the dealership when I bought my very first new car, a 1989 Mazda 626 LX 5-speed.  I paid about 14k for my car.  The RX-7 was almost exactly double that.

Fast forward a few years when I visited a good friend at a dealership in Ramsey, NJ and test drove a brand new FD.  I forget the exact year and model, though I'm pretty sure it was an R1.  For sure it was a stick.  That car blew my socks off, but stickered in the mid $30's, it wasn't in the cards.

I kinda regret not picking up a driver FD 20 years ago when decent ones could be had for low to mid teens.

codrus (Forum Supporter)
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1/9/25 2:49 p.m.
1988RedT2 said:

I kinda regret not picking up a driver FD 20 years ago when decent ones could be had for low to mid teens.

I'm not sure that was ever really true.  Good condition FDs kind of bottomed out around $20K.

 

 

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