Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
1/23/24 3:22 p.m.
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BMW had the E30 M3, Mercedes-Benz had the 190 E 2.3-16.

This particular 190 E has been modified into the “ultimate canyon-carving, racetrack-shredding, daily driving machine.”

More specifically, the Mercedes-Benz has been upgraded with a Strömung exhaust, Koni shocks, H&R springs, Compomotive wheels, Pirelli P-Zero tires, Recaro seats and more, plus has had several creature comforts–like the soundproofing, carpets, A/C compressor and …

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calteg
calteg SuperDork
1/23/24 4:09 p.m.

Given E30 M3 prices, that seems like a downright bargain

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/23/24 6:54 p.m.

Where's LanEvo and yupididit?

LanEvo
LanEvo GRM+ Memberand Dork
1/23/24 7:00 p.m.
GameboyRMH said:

Where's LanEvo and yupididit?

Raises hand.

I love mine. I've also got a couple of E30 M3's, one street car and one race-prepped. The 190E is more fun to drive and generally better handling. Very neutral and easy to steer on the throttle. The engine is also sweeter: more midrange torque; sounds great.

CyberEric
CyberEric SuperDork
1/23/24 10:35 p.m.

Yeah, seems like a bargain given other pricing. I just saw a mint 2002 for $36k, for example. 
 

I'd have to ditch those wheels though. Something looks off about them, not sure if it's width or offset or diameter. Weird because I like the design. 
 

 

Duke
Duke MegaDork
1/24/24 8:34 a.m.

That's about the last Mercedes I was ever interested in.

 

walton
walton New Reader
1/24/24 8:44 a.m.

Clean, well taken care of, but not too perfect to beat on - my perfect spec. 

LanEvo
LanEvo GRM+ Memberand Dork
1/24/24 9:00 a.m.

In reply to CyberEric :

17- and 18-inch wheels are WAY too big for the car. For looks, 16" is perfect. For performance, 15" is better.

I race with 225/45/15 tires on 15x8" wheels and that's perfect for the platform.

DavyZ
DavyZ New Reader
1/24/24 2:17 p.m.

In reply to LanEvo :

I also really like 15x8 wheels and a 225/45/15 tire--I just wished there were more manufacturers cranking out this size.

yupididit
yupididit UltimaDork
1/24/24 10:57 p.m.

That car is cool. I'll be honest, driving the 4cyl 16v car after driving my m104 24v i6 ruined the Cosworth cars for me. This chassis doesn't need a whole lot of power but around 225hp really makes the car more enjoyable. 

I was thinking about ordering a set of those wheels (Compomotive TH1781) in silver. They don't look that good in black. 

 

CyberEric
CyberEric SuperDork
1/25/24 12:30 p.m.

So are you saying you have the 190e with an m104 I6?

NorseDave
NorseDave HalfDork
1/25/24 3:30 p.m.

One of these days, when I get all the other projects into running status, I'll go back and add a small turbo to my 8v 190.  ~200hp in a manual 190 sounds like a LOT of fun.

yupididit
yupididit UltimaDork
1/25/24 8:41 p.m.
CyberEric said:

So are you saying you have the 190e with an m104 I6?

Yes, m104.980. Its my favorite car! 

chandler
chandler MegaDork
1/25/24 9:08 p.m.

I ran 17" Volks on my last 16v and they looked great. Looking for a decent 190e now since I have a rusted out 124 chassis to swap everything over.

yupididit
yupididit UltimaDork
1/26/24 6:51 a.m.

In reply to chandler :

I need a 16v body kit if you see any intact

chandler
chandler MegaDork
1/26/24 7:21 a.m.
yupididit said:

In reply to chandler :

I need a 16v body kit if you see any intact

I'd just buy a knockoff at this point, last nice real one I saw went for 2800. I've owned two 2.3 16v and I bought both of them for less than that

yupididit
yupididit UltimaDork
1/26/24 8:28 a.m.

In reply to chandler :

I'll need a really good knock-off because then I'm going evo1 from there. Might hit up hedgehog tuning.

stylngle2003
stylngle2003 GRM+ Memberand Reader
1/28/24 7:45 a.m.

I may be (probably am) out of touch with values on these things, but this seems like moonshot pricing for a car that is far from perfect. It's not an m3...so I guess if you've got m3 desires but bleed 3-pointed star, it seems like a bargain.
 

It seems like it's been owned/operated (but not maintained....parts-cannoned would be more descriptive) by someone who prioritizes form over function. And is looking to capitalize on a stupid Radwood/m3 market. 
 

Too-narrow tires, no radio, f-boy shift knob, stripped back seat, idle issues, no a/c,  carbon fiber stickers. 
 

I'm clearly not the buyer for this car, but this seems like an $8-10k car, to me, on the best of days. 

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