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Trans_Maro
Trans_Maro UltraDork
11/6/13 11:23 p.m.

http://street.harley-davidson.com/en_US?source_cd=social14030214

500CC and 43hp....

Nothing says performance like putting out Japanese bike horsepower from 30 years ago.

It better have a buttload of torque.

Zomby Woof
Zomby Woof PowerDork
11/6/13 11:47 p.m.

They've out Honda'd Honda (see CBR250 specs for reference).

92dxman
92dxman HalfDork
11/7/13 1:58 p.m.

I think it looks good for being a Harley. I'm not crazy about their pudgy couch cruisers. I wonder how people will react to this.

Cone_Junkie
Cone_Junkie SuperDork
11/7/13 2:01 p.m.

Isn't that what the tools on SoA ride around on? (After their bikes were destroyed and they all had matching bikes)

ShadowSix
ShadowSix Dork
11/7/13 2:05 p.m.

Just H-D trying to find some buyers under 40, NBD.

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe Dork
11/7/13 2:21 p.m.

SO are they selling these in the states or just oversea's. That looks like a brand building bike for the Asia market not really something they will sell in the states.

ultraclyde
ultraclyde SuperDork
11/7/13 2:44 p.m.

Hipster Davidson

Blitzed306
Blitzed306 Reader
11/7/13 2:45 p.m.

I dont like harleys and I would def take one for a spin before I talked E36 M3 about it

yamaha
yamaha PowerDork
11/7/13 3:45 p.m.

In reply to Trans_Maro:

I thought the 883 only made 43hp.....

FSP_ZX2
FSP_ZX2 Dork
11/7/13 4:39 p.m.
wearymicrobe wrote: SO are they selling these in the states or just oversea's. That looks like a brand building bike for the Asia market not really something they will sell in the states.

They will sell in US (made in KC) and also internationally (not made in KC). The 500cc bike will MSRP at $6799+frt and the 750 will MSRP at $7499_frt; both will have 24 month unlimited mile warranties.

They are being marketed to "young, urban adults...".

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe Dork
11/7/13 4:51 p.m.
FSP_ZX2 wrote:
wearymicrobe wrote: SO are they selling these in the states or just oversea's. That looks like a brand building bike for the Asia market not really something they will sell in the states.
They will sell in US (made in KC) and also internationally (not made in KC). The 500cc bike will MSRP at $6799+frt and the 750 will MSRP at $7499_frt; both will have 24 month unlimited mile warranties. They are being marketed to "young, urban adults...".

Cheaper then a sportster but not by much.

Beer Baron
Beer Baron UltimaDork
11/7/13 4:51 p.m.

I am not a Harley guy, but I really like the look of that bike. Did you guys see the prices?

$6,700 for the 500 and $7,500 for the 750. I looked for comparisons to that. That is less than a Triumph Bonneville or Honda Shadow. That is solidly in the neighborhood of the Honda CX700. I think that is who they are really firing a shot at.

For that you get a Harley with really nice looks and their impressive warranty. Unlike other Harleys, this one clearly has a much more standard seating position. It very clearly was made to be a functional city bike to compete more against the likes of the Honda CX700. Unlike that, this bike clearly has a sense of style and soul. It isn't going to set the world alight with performance, but it aught to get you around town more than capably.

Unlike other Harleys, this clearly created to be a functional bike that fills a very specific role, and not just be a style mobile. The fact that it looks to be quite functional with its own form of pizzazz is really impressive. If this bike genuinely has good ergos, I will be hugely impressed.

If I had the cash outlay to buy her a brand new bike, that 500 would be the perfect thing for the Beer Baroness.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/7/13 5:16 p.m.

Isn't that motor the water-cooled Evo series co-designed by Porsche? I would think you could coax a little more power out of it...

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe Dork
11/7/13 5:33 p.m.
Javelin wrote: Isn't that motor the water-cooled Evo series co-designed by Porsche? I would think you could coax a little more power out of it...

Different motor I think.

They also have a water-cooled bagger option out this year.

FSP_ZX2
FSP_ZX2 Dork
11/7/13 5:50 p.m.

The motor, from what I understand, is a 60* twin that is loosely based on the VRod architecture. It is liquid cooled, 4V and SOHC. They will have 6 speeds too (where the VRod is a 5 speed).

SEADave
SEADave Reader
11/7/13 6:28 p.m.

At the very least the 500cc version will give them a bike to use in their "Rider's Edge" program now that the Buell Blast isn't being made.

I would like to see the a comparison test between the 750 and the 883 Sportster. Wonder if the water cooled, OHC, multi-valve engine trumps the slightly larger air-cooled 883.

eastsidemav
eastsidemav Dork
11/7/13 8:05 p.m.

I kind of like them, my only appearance complaint is I'm not a huge fan of the headlight surround. $2000 is a pretty big difference between the 500 and an 883 Sportster, and with the 80 lbs less weight and about the same horsepower, the Street 500 is probably faster.

I'm not sure I'd buy one, but I might. As long as they prove as reliable as other modern Harleys, I suspect they'll sell as many as they can make.

Beer Baron
Beer Baron UltimaDork
11/7/13 8:18 p.m.
eastsidemav wrote: I kind of like them, my only appearance complaint is I'm not a huge fan of the headlight surround.

I kind of like it. If you don't, looks like it would be pretty easy to remove and have look good.

Appleseed
Appleseed UltimaDork
11/8/13 12:06 a.m.

Hey guys, have you seen the new Buell Blast?

Blitzed306
Blitzed306 Reader
11/8/13 7:23 a.m.

I think its great that the motor company is trying to think out side the box here, I personally love small CC bikes. And I can hear the hardcore HD guys now with they're "girls bike" bullE36 M3. I'll go get a test ride on one as soon as they hit the dealership

yamaha
yamaha PowerDork
11/8/13 10:28 a.m.

In reply to Beer Baron:

They did that before though, but they were AMF's.

Beer Baron
Beer Baron UltimaDork
11/8/13 10:35 a.m.
yamaha wrote: In reply to Beer Baron: They did that before though, but they were AMF's.

Did what? Make bikes to serve a purpose other than impressing the other guys at the bar?

Also, not familiar with what "AMF" is in this context.

Beer Baron
Beer Baron UltimaDork
11/8/13 10:38 a.m.

I am not a Harley guy, but there seems to be a lot of hate for them on this board. Normally folks around here are shouting to the hills that we need more lower displacement, real, interesting bikes that are being sold for less. If any other bike manufacturer were to do this exact same thing, people would be all excited about it. But Harley does it, so there is tons of hate.

yamaha
yamaha PowerDork
11/8/13 10:52 a.m.

In reply to Beer Baron:

Back in the AMF harley era, there were many sub 1k cc engined bikes running around with harley branding. Off road, city, etc......they weren't about the "style" or badassedry. I believe even the normal harley guys made fun of them constantly as well.

ShadowSix
ShadowSix Dork
11/8/13 10:58 a.m.

If it creates manufacturing jobs in America I'm all for it.

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