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wlkelley3
wlkelley3 SuperDork
10/1/14 9:25 p.m.

What is on the rear tire? Ruins it! Front isn't too far behind. A scrambler with a lower front end? Blasphemy!! Although the exhaust and rear swing arm doesn't do it for me I can see the functionality in it though.

Josh
Josh SuperDork
10/2/14 8:10 a.m.

I'm not sure what you guys think is so terrible about it. I'm sure someone will have a fender eliminator kit for it soon if they don't already, and the seat is a bit oddly shaped, but I am more excited about the specs than the cosmetics. I'm not crazy about the yellow, but the style is more or less faithful to the original ducati scrambler.

stuart in mn
stuart in mn PowerDork
10/2/14 8:33 a.m.

I was going to post a picture of that Ducati myself. I agree that the weird rear fender thing has to go, but I like the rest of it.

Trans_Maro
Trans_Maro UberDork
10/2/14 9:36 a.m.

Fix the kink in the seat and swingarm, get rid of that horrible exhaust and it will look fine.

Rusnak_322
Rusnak_322 Dork
10/2/14 10:31 a.m.

The exhaust needs to be higher to hide the ugly airbox/frame. The bike is retro with avery modern swingarm and pipe.

Needs to be more like this -

I kinda dig the gators on the upside down forks.

92dxman
92dxman Dork
10/2/14 11:06 a.m.

I think these Triumphs might be up your alley:

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/mcy/4684315866.html

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/mcy/4678116309.html

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/mcy/4625655818.html

http://southjersey.craigslist.org/mcy/4690745129.html

Have you thought about a BMW and stripping some of the fairings off?:

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/mcd/4643799664.html

Josh
Josh SuperDork
10/2/14 12:59 p.m.
Trans_Maro wrote: Fix the kink in the seat and swingarm, get rid of that horrible exhaust and it will look fine.

To me, both of those changes are downgrades. Yeah, let's totally abandon modern rear suspension design in the name of retro vanity, and also run the exhaust up under my nads just because old Triumph and Honda scramblers put it up there, even though the vintage Ducati scrambler that this references ran it low.

Rusnak_322
Rusnak_322 Dork
10/2/14 3:12 p.m.

You are not abandoning “modern rear suspension design” by making a conventional straight swing arm. Worked fine on the Ducati 999. By the way, the rear suspension looks to be a non-rising rate with only pre-load adjustment. Not really setting the bar that high. You don’t need the highly tucked in exhaust that requires the banana swingarm design on this bike. You just are not going to get to that level of lean on blocky off road-ish tires.

Josh
Josh SuperDork
10/2/14 5:46 p.m.

I was assuming you meant going back to an outboard shock ala the original, but I still say let the engineers decide what the swing arm looks like, not the stylists. This is a simple, moderately priced, light, tossable bike and there are packaging/weight/center of mass benefits to making the shock as small as possible and tucking it in close to the engine like that. The 999 probably does not have the same suspension travel requirement as a semi-offroader like this, and that swingarm geometry allows for more rear travel from a short shock/spring. It's a very minimal frame, and I'd rather they keep the weight down so the bike is fun than make unnecessary concessions to style. The photoshopped bike is clearly (if it were real) a much heavier bike (look at all those extra tubes and unnecessary cover panels, and the massive exhaust). I doubt I'd like riding that bike nearly as much as the one Ducati actually made.

foxtrapper
foxtrapper UltimaDork
10/2/14 8:21 p.m.
ddavidv wrote: It's Foxtrapper's job to see to it I get to the motorcycle show. I'm sure I'll hate 90% of everything there.

Sweet, t's a date! Now who's going to wear the skirt? You've got the longer legs, but I've the knock-out ass.

Anyhow, lighten up, laugh, and have fun. If we go on a Saturday I'll have my son with me, so he'll be over at the Ducati booth drooling on the Panigale some more. It's fun to compare the bikes, sit on so many of them, and find what attracts you. It can be quite surprising. Last time I found myself liking a bmw 800 low, a Yamaha vstar that fit nicely, and the Ducati diavel. Real similar machines!

ddavidv
ddavidv PowerDork
10/3/14 6:05 a.m.

Who cares about bikes...I want to see the wonderful, special snowflakes that are biker chicks.

octavious
octavious HalfDork
10/3/14 6:50 a.m.

It might have been discussed but Yamaha has a retro 400 they are introduced for the 15 MY.

http://www.yamahamotorsports.com/sport/products/modelhome/691/0/home.aspx

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
10/3/14 7:28 a.m.
ddavidv wrote: Who cares about bikes...I want to see the wonderful, special snowflakes that are biker chicks.

At your service!

octavious
octavious HalfDork
10/3/14 8:49 a.m.

1972 Suzuki Titan 500 listed at $1000

http://knoxville.craigslist.org/mcy/4682598339.html

FSP_ZX2
FSP_ZX2 Dork
10/3/14 3:48 p.m.

Late 90s to early 2000's Sportsters are $3K bikes all day long...

...and you change and/or modify any part on the bike to suit your needs, wants and desires. Literally the only two limitations are your imagination and your checkbook.

Y2K XL883 shown

Trans_Maro
Trans_Maro UberDork
10/3/14 7:32 p.m.

But then you'd have to own a Harley, and the outfit to go with it.

Nick_Comstock
Nick_Comstock PowerDork
10/3/14 8:31 p.m.

In reply to Trans_Maro:

I don't own an outfit to go with it. Just regular old normal safety gear. I'm pretty sure it's not mandatory to dress up like a pirate to own a Harley.

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