Oh, and about the opening line: "For most of the past decade, the uncontested King of the Road has been the Shelby GT500."
I think some might disagree with that.
Oh, and about the opening line: "For most of the past decade, the uncontested King of the Road has been the Shelby GT500."
I think some might disagree with that.
alfadriver wrote:Conquest351 wrote: United Auto Workers. I'm guessing that's what you're asking.United Auto Workers.
Yeah, that's what I said... 
Conquest351 wrote:alfadriver wrote:Yeah, that's what I said...Conquest351 wrote: United Auto Workers. I'm guessing that's what you're asking.United Auto Workers.
pinchvalve wrote: Every review I have read has been gushing about the latest Mustangs, in every iteration. I could totally rock a Mustang again! They have a back seat, where a car seat could fit. (of course I would get the Laguna Seca edition and delete the rear seat)
You don't need to delete the rear seat in the Laguna Seca, Ford did it for you. 
Grizz wrote: Wonder how heavy it will be.
3850 according to Automobile
That's still a bit porky, but figures out to 6.4 pounds per HP. Stout.
The Boss 302 (especially Laguna Seca) waaaaaay out-handles the GT500, one's an athlete, the other's a monster bludgeon with a big....
I'm on my way to LA with Ford, will post pics of the engine bay tomorrow
novaderrik wrote: everyone forgets that Ford invented the idea of the bailout- they were the first car company to go to congress to beg for money.. this was a year or so before GM and Chrysler. they were told that it's not the government's job to keep them in business.. that's why they sold off so many assets and got rid of so many people over the last few years.. then GM came along- with Chrysler along for the ride- looking to get money because if they went down, the whole economy was going to go down with it. which is debatable, but that's now it played out.
I forget, how much money did Ford take?
novaderrik wrote: everyone forgets that Ford invented the idea of the bailout- they were the first car company to go to congress to beg for money.. this was a year or so before GM and Chrysler. they were told that it's not the government's job to keep them in business.. that's why they sold off so many assets and got rid of so many people over the last few years.. then GM came along- with Chrysler along for the ride- looking to get money because if they went down, the whole economy was going to go down with it. which is debatable, but that's now it played out.
Nevertheless, they didn't take any bailout money. And the gov still owns a good portion of GM, which IMO is a real conflict of interest. And Chrysler...Well they're Chrysler. I've been pondering a new vehicle buy, and I have to say that the factors above have me looking mostly at Ford.
650 hp gents.
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/11/15/2013-ford-shelby-gt500-delivers-650-hp-and-200-mph-straight-from/
I personally like the 3rd paragraph.
"Further enhancements can be had in the GT500 Performance Pack, which incorporates SVT-designed Blistein electronic adjustable dampers with 'normal' and 'sport' modes and a Torsen limited-slip differential. What's more, the Track Package adds an external engine oil cooler, rear differential cooler and transmission cooler. Like the current GT500, 19-inch wheels are standard up front (20-inch rollers are found out back) and a Brembo braking system keeps everything in check when its time to control all that force. The whole package weighs in at just 3,850 pounds – 270 less than the Camaro ZL1 – and Ford says it will not be subject to the dreaded Gas Guzzler Tax."
carguy123 wrote: HUH? What rock have I been hiding under?
Probably the one over by the Viper ACR-X or Z-06.
Lesley wrote: The Boss 302 (especially Laguna Seca) waaaaaay out-handles the GT500, one's an athlete, the other's a monster bludgeon with a big....
Find out if they will be offering it in a crate so I don't have to wait until a pile of flat-billers ball them up to use them in projects.
aussiesmg wrote:novaderrik wrote: everyone forgets that Ford invented the idea of the bailout- they were the first car company to go to congress to beg for money.. this was a year or so before GM and Chrysler. they were told that it's not the government's job to keep them in business.. that's why they sold off so many assets and got rid of so many people over the last few years.. then GM came along- with Chrysler along for the ride- looking to get money because if they went down, the whole economy was going to go down with it. which is debatable, but that's now it played out.I forget, how much money did Ford take?
um... I seem to recall that Chrysler got a bailout in the early 80s.. so I would not say that ford invented it.
They pulled the sheet off the monster Mustang tonight – at a club that was sort of Bombay Palace meets early whorehouse... Carroll Shelby was there. He's looking really frail.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:Lesley wrote: The Boss 302 (especially Laguna Seca) waaaaaay out-handles the GT500, one's an athlete, the other's a monster bludgeon with a big....Find out if they will be offering it in a crate so I don't have to wait until a pile of flat-billers ball them up to use them in projects.
Aren't they already?
I thought I saw an article about someone who's already swapped the new 5.0 into a Fox body.
Yeah new 5.0L is a crate.
and since this is the GT 500 thread (2011 model of course.) 
news today is that the new gt500 has a top speed of 202mph
It is also confirmed to get the ECOBoost V6.
I see a 335i vs M3 issue very soon if they put the lineup with V6 N/A, ECOBoost V6, 5.0 GT, and GT500.
It won't get to the Shelby level but it will have something for the GT.
Honestly I am surprised Ford took the route they did with the Shelby. I thought they were axing the modular line and instead they bore it out and continue with the baddest beast yet? I'm confused.
Lesley you may be there with one of my buddies that works for Ford to. His FB status last night was "Just met Shelby, check that off my bucket list" haha.
My plan is that once I complete all my military training and barring a deployment overseas is to buy a new Boss 302. I miss my 06 supercharged GT so much!
FlightService wrote: Honestly I am surprised Ford took the route they did with the Shelby. I thought they were axing the modular line and instead they bore it out and continue with the baddest beast yet? I'm confused.
The new 5.8 in the Shelby GT500 has jack nothing to do with the old crap-tastic so-called "modular" motor. It's the Coyote Plus engine developed with the 5.0. They are all new except for the bore spacing. No parts will transfer over either way (Mod to Coyote or visa-versa). The 5.8 is available as an N/A 6.2 in the F-150.
z31maniac wrote:Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:Aren't they already? I thought I saw an article about someone who's already swapped the new 5.0 into a Fox body.Lesley wrote: The Boss 302 (especially Laguna Seca) waaaaaay out-handles the GT500, one's an athlete, the other's a monster bludgeon with a big....Find out if they will be offering it in a crate so I don't have to wait until a pile of flat-billers ball them up to use them in projects.
Just think.. he can keep the "5.0" emblems too
Javelin wrote:FlightService wrote: Honestly I am surprised Ford took the route they did with the Shelby. I thought they were axing the modular line and instead they bore it out and continue with the baddest beast yet? I'm confused.The new 5.8 in the Shelby GT500 has jack nothing to do with the old crap-tastic so-called "modular" motor. It's the Coyote Plus engine developed with the 5.0. They are all new except for the bore spacing. No parts will transfer over either way (Mod to Coyote or visa-versa). The 5.8 is available as an N/A 6.2 in the F-150.
You are the only one saying that. All the Automobile "press" is saying it is a bored 5.4
Not saying I don't believe you, just you are the only source I have read that from.
FlightService wrote:Javelin wrote:You are the only one saying that. All the Automobile "press" is saying it is a bored 5.4 Not saying I don't believe you, just you are the only source I have read that from.FlightService wrote: Honestly I am surprised Ford took the route they did with the Shelby. I thought they were axing the modular line and instead they bore it out and continue with the baddest beast yet? I'm confused.The new 5.8 in the Shelby GT500 has jack nothing to do with the old crap-tastic so-called "modular" motor. It's the Coyote Plus engine developed with the 5.0. They are all new except for the bore spacing. No parts will transfer over either way (Mod to Coyote or visa-versa). The 5.8 is available as an N/A 6.2 in the F-150.
It's unpossible to "bore" a 5.4. The bore is already at the max due to the engines extremely tight bore spacing and already siamesed cylinder walls. At least, that's what C/D and Hot Rod both told me.
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