a friend and his money...

It's still rhd though!!!

Joey

My old Camaro ('78 but with an earlier motor and completely built) use to get me quite a bit of attention from many of the upcoming ricers in the mid 90's. The car was an absolute beast and I loved driving it. I can remember many times some kid pulling up in their Hondas and what not revving their engines then their faces would go white when they heard my engine roar. That car earned quite a reputation for awhile last I knew it was still driving around Portland though its been painted blue now instead of the black when I had it.

Buy two copies of this book. One for you and one for him.
He may not think he needs it now, but he will.
It can hurt to know this yourself and you can use the knowledge to encourage him.

N Sperlo wrote: My friend blew his engine in the Supra that his father got him... So his father got him a JDM swap. Twin turbo. I got to drive it before he wrecked it a week later. It was fun. Then daddy got him an MR2. Ask me, his pops has the same problem. Those R32s are sick, though.

I used to loathe this part of the import "scene" back when it was booming. The "funded by mommy and daddy" thing chapped my ass severely.

So surprising the kid valued nothing that was given to him.

In reply to gamby:

Yep loads of the kids at my school fell into that category. It was a private school with lots of rich kids. I worked 3 jobs in high school to pay for my cars and I ran my little enterprises at school that gave me extra cash. Most of them had cars they could not even come close to handling and I can't tell you how many went through 2 or 3 cars before they graduated and each one mommy and daddy bought for them.

Granted in high school I also was dating the grand daughter of the guy that owned the largest Honda dealer in town.

Appleseed wrote:

motomoron wrote: ...I will relate the "jacking the chumpy" story later for context later - generally it's random and gratuitous throttle mashing to show loudness...

Otherwise known as "throwing revs."

Ok - The origin of "Jacking the Chumpy": Back in my days in the powersports industry I was having lunch with the Triumph rep and generally swapping stories. He got out his wallet, dug out a wrinkled bit of paper and explained that he'd written down one of the most peculiar and ignorant things a motorcycle consumer had ever told him so he'd always be able to get the story right. He was working the Suzuki booth at a large motorcycle show - one of those big all weekend convention center deals they have in January. Dude walks up, gets my associates attention, and gesturing at a GSXR1300 Hayabusa states "Yo, I gots a 'Busa, right? and when I jacks the chumpy, it ain't all that! What's the hoop?"

From that point forward in a very small community the term "Jacking the Chumpy" has been applied to nearly any form of sportbike based gratuitous throttle blipping that doesn't involve rev-matching downshifts on the race track.

I can sleep now

In reply to gamby:

It's not that he didn't value them, its just that he's... A really really crappy driver.

He likes to believe he's an auto-genius. He couldn't diagnose a leaky pipe.

In reply to motomoron:

That story made me lol.

No, it was that he didn't value them. Nobody is THAT bad of a driver that driving LEGALLY they can ruin one engine and wreck another car in a matter of weeks.

Blew the engine going 90 with notalotta oil. Then he tapped a tad hard on a wet clover leaf and a sign ate the car. Bad driving and stupidity.

I had a chance to drive the Supra before it was wrecked. Put it sideways on accident on wet tires, but just straightened her out drifting. Fun car, but I think there was a release valve problem. Knocked the MAF out.

So he said it was a track car. Has he actually had it out at the track?

Your buddy kinda sounds like a friend of mine who spent all kinds of money building an evo, I was always nagging him about bringing it out to an autoX or a track event but he would respond with a "its not quite ready yet"

Eventually the shop that was working on his car caught fire and that was the end of that...

its done 1 circle track run. There was a stock miata there that almost beat a 400hp skyline gtr. The miata is now midway through a 13b swap.

Easy explanation: People's identity is in part expressed in the stuff they have, how they interact with their stuff, how they spend their money (in cultures with money) etc... With this guy's car, the disconnect is between how he views the car, and how we view the car. Think of those of you who are happy and proud of your 200k mile, rusty, 11 second challenge cars. This guy sees those as crappy, rusty, old cars worth only $2000. you see them as inexpensive, fast, and fun. Different meanings for the same car. He sees his "Skyline" as personal adornment (if you don't agree, look at the cubic dollars spend on looks at the cost of performance), you see it as a waste of money making a good car slower. Adornment vs. functionality. this is simplified of course, as both are functional and act as adornment, but it's weighted differently. For him, the fact that it says "Skyline" on the back is the display of performance, and "Beetle" is a display of crappiness, even if said Beetle is also a 10 second car and his is not.

There's nothing wrong with different viewpoints at all, except when the quest for displaying identity and wealth (Again, if you disagree that he's trying to display wealth, ask why he's blowing so much money on the looks of the thing,) exceeds actual wealth (a problem in American society since before the USA was a country). I hope he doesn't go too far in debt, it can ruin otherwise really nice people.

motomoron wrote: From that point forward in a very small community the term "Jacking the Chumpy" has been applied to nearly any form of sportbike based gratuitous throttle blipping that doesn't involve rev-matching downshifts on the race track.

I just got my chumpy jacked on the way home tonight in the Manic Miata. Some middle-age thickneck in a black F-body was riding next to me using his gas pedal to express his disapproval of my gay car to his 7-year-old son in the right seat. So I blipped the throttle, dumped it into second, and lit up both back tires at 40 mph. He quit doing it after that.

Sad thing is, it was actually a pretty nice Trans Am and he probably could have taken me in a serious drag race.

sounds like its not really his dreamcar if he's paying hordes of money to make it look like a different car. IMO the R32 is the best looking anyway so i just dont get it.

Joshua wrote:

motomoron wrote: The only time I'll play now is occasionally I'll get one tailgating me as I approach an on-ramp in the M3 track rat - It's essentially a NASA GTS2 car minus the front half of the cage and an electrical shut-off. I don't lift or brake, and gradually speed up on the way in to take the "I just completed a pass way too deep in the braking zone and need to go deep and square this one off" line. Sometimes they're so intent on staying 8' off my back bumper they don't have any concept of what's gone wrong 'til they're pushing wide and I'm fully on the throttle and rocketing away. No one has balled a car up yet, but hopefully something is learned. I doubt that though.

You need to be careful in M3's, a friend was being harassed by a Mustang on the interstate one time so he took a round-about, he looks back to see the Mustang tumbling through the ditch.

really not all that bad-a place for shiny happy people to end up is it ?

wbjones wrote:

Joshua wrote:

motomoron wrote: The only time I'll play now is occasionally I'll get one tailgating me as I approach an on-ramp in the M3 track rat - It's essentially a NASA GTS2 car minus the front half of the cage and an electrical shut-off. I don't lift or brake, and gradually speed up on the way in to take the "I just completed a pass way too deep in the braking zone and need to go deep and square this one off" line. Sometimes they're so intent on staying 8' off my back bumper they don't have any concept of what's gone wrong 'til they're pushing wide and I'm fully on the throttle and rocketing away. No one has balled a car up yet, but hopefully something is learned. I doubt that though.

You need to be careful in M3's, a friend was being harassed by a Mustang on the interstate one time so he took a round-about, he looks back to see the Mustang tumbling through the ditch.

really not all that bad-a place for shiny happy people to end up is it ?

True, but it's a sad end to a Mustang

"Jacking the chumpy" -- in our region we call it "giving the pipes" :)

My new toy has a really sweet exhaust, burbly, back-fires, cracks and snaps -- and I am probably guilty of playing with the throttle a bit just to create some noise.

But, never in relation to someone else's car. . .