Advice that works but not if everyone does it.

Beer Baron 🍺 said:

Start your own business.

Actually I think that could be awesome, if everyone could somehow afford it. Small businesses could merge with a partnership or employee-owned co-op structure instead of employer-employee arrangements. Everyone could benefit from improvements to productivity.

GameboyRMH said:

Beer Baron 🍺 said:

Start your own business.

Actually I think that could be awesome, if everyone could somehow afford it. Small businesses could merge with a partnership or employee-owned co-op structure instead of employer-employee arrangements. Everyone could benefit from improvements to productivity.

Yeah. Assembly line manufacturing is horribly wasteful.

Fight fire with fire

In reply to Beer Baron 🍺 :

There's no reason mass manufacturing with assembly lines couldn't coexist with a business structure where the workers are also owners, but I can see how the idea could be disruptive to existing ones...

Beer Baron 🍺 said:

GameboyRMH said:

Beer Baron 🍺 said:

Start your own business.

Actually I think that could be awesome, if everyone could somehow afford it. Small businesses could merge with a partnership or employee-owned co-op structure instead of employer-employee arrangements. Everyone could benefit from improvements to productivity.

Yeah. Assembly line manufacturing is horribly wasteful.

And leadership by committee is so efficient.

Employee owned large industrial:  Mondragon.  Seems to work.

https://thebetter.news/mondragon-one-of-the-largest-corporations-in-spain-belongs-to-its-workers/

GameboyRMH said:

In reply to Beer Baron 🍺 :

There's no reason mass manufacturing with assembly lines couldn't coexist with a business structure where the workers are also owners, but I can see how the idea could be disruptive to existing ones...

You know you're describing communism, right?

And yes things like this *can* work on small volunteer scales. But it doesn't work if EVERYONE does it.

Don't turn your hobby into your day job.

Beer Baron 🍺 said:

You know you're describing communism, right?

Not at all, but the outcome might be vaguely socialism-adjacent. Oddly enough you most often see those kinds of business relationships/company structures among very highly paid professionals.

GameboyRMH said:

Beer Baron 🍺 said:

You know you're describing communism, right?

Not at all, but the outcome might be vaguely socialism-adjacent. Oddly enough you most often see those kinds of business relationships/company structures among very highly paid professionals.

It sounds like the sort of thing that works, but not if *everyone* does it...

Hey - let's not make this political. Drop the argument/discussion. It doesn't matter and nobody cares. 

Appleseed said:

Aren't we just redefining what it means to be a hipster? What isn't cool, is cool, until everyone thinks its cool, then it's not cool.

Along the lines of how can you tell with a high degree of certainty that a make and model of car will not be a hot future collectible?  Find the ones everyone thinks will be hot collectibles.  Then don't buy those.