and you thought your state was bad

worst states (according to this writer) for tickets

http://autos.yahoo.com/news/most-egregious-states-speeding-tickets-us-133035069.html

yes, beleive or not, NJ ranks as one of the better states to speed in

Interesting that Virginia wasn't on that list. They've got some wicked high fines, and seems like more cops per square inch than anywhere else I've been. Particularly northern Virginia.

Just to add (for no particular reason), there can be tremendous variability within a state, usually along county lines.

I understand why Illinois is in the first part, but that is UP TO $1000. Yeah that's depending on how fast you were over the limit. If it's under 20 over, they generally are under $400. I have lived in Illinois for 31 years and I have never hear anything about a Statie giving someone a $1000 speeding ticket. Honestly, if you're doing 20 over you deserve a $1000 ticket.

Or if you were caught speeding in a work or a school zone, both of which tend to double a fine. In addition to the fine, you can spend up to a year in jail. Granted, speeding in a work zone is bad for everyone concerned, but a few moments of inattention resulting in a $1,000 fine?

YES! When you have a lane that is 2 feet wider on each side than a semi truck, there is no reason to be speeding or having a moment of "inattention", i.e. texting while driving or being on the phone in general. Do they understand how easy it is to get into an accident?

And does anyone think it's a good idea to speed in a School Zone with children present?

foxtrapper wrote: Interesting that Virginia wasn't on that list. They've got some wicked high fines, and seems like more cops per square inch than anywhere else I've been. Particularly northern Virginia.

PLUS, they will confiscate or smash your radar detector if they see it, even if it wasn't on and is perfectly legal in every state that's NOT Virginia, and even though the FCC has already told Virginia that they're not allowed to make radar detectors illegal.

My state is nowhere on that list. I suppose the Cops have enough fun busting drug traffickers.

Duke wrote:

foxtrapper wrote: Interesting that Virginia wasn't on that list. They've got some wicked high fines, and seems like more cops per square inch than anywhere else I've been. Particularly northern Virginia.

PLUS, they will confiscate or smash your radar detector if they see it, even if it wasn't on and is perfectly legal in every state that's NOT Virginia, *and even though the FCC has already told Virginia that they're not allowed to make radar detectors illegal.*

keep in mind ... you're NOT required to hand it over... BTDT ... you'll get a ticket, whether or not it's hooked up or not. you can fight it (since it's legal in your state) but that means you'll probably have to post bond (Va takes their radar detectors very seriously)

but what I've done is keep a $10 El-Cheepo and just hand them that ...

they then drop it on the pavement and look you in the eye and say "oops" ... pretty much daring you to try to do anything about it

In reply to wbjones:

This is quite a bit of why I think Virgina is for shiny happy people, not lovers. The Feds have told them on multiple occasions that if the cops are allowed to broadcast radio waves then private citizens are allowed to receive them. But they just don't berking care, and like any spoiled child, they're not punished, so they keep getting away with it.

Plus I know a guy with a rollback - his own, for private use only, and clearly marked NOT FOR HIRE - who got hauled out and had his truck impounded for the heinous terroristic crime of failing to have yellow lights on top.

I am normally one of the people who says that cops are usually good guys trying to keep people safe. But every Virgina cop I've ever dealt with, or heard of, is absolutely the exception to that rule.

Virgina cops are like the suburban version of LAPD.

In reply to SyntheticBlinkerFluid:

I agree.

and "a few moments of inattention"? how are you speeding for a few moments of inattention? what you look away and your car takes off? also, it take a few moments of inattention to kill someone.

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: Honestly, if you're doing 20 over you deserve a $1000 ticket.

Between the artificially low speed limit zones and simply keeping up with traffic on an interstate highway, 20 over is something many folk do quite regularly.

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: I understand why Illinois is in the first part, but that is UP TO $1000. Yeah that's depending on how fast you were over the limit. If it's under 20 over, they generally are under $400. I have lived in Illinois for 31 years and I have never hear anything about a Statie giving someone a $1000 speeding ticket. Honestly, if you're doing 20 over you deserve a $1000 ticket.

Or if you were caught speeding in a work or a school zone, both of which tend to double a fine. In addition to the fine, you can spend up to a year in jail. Granted, speeding in a work zone is bad for everyone concerned, but a few moments of inattention resulting in a $1,000 fine?

YES! When you have a lane that is 2 feet wider on each side than a semi truck, there is no reason to be speeding or having a moment of "inattention", i.e. texting while driving or being on the phone in general. Do they understand how easy it is to get into an accident? And does anyone think it's a good idea to speed in a School Zone with children present?

But your state puts up speed camera's on I-70 in a marked and flashing light construction zone without ANY SIGN of road construction. Our cops can be Nazi's in construction zones, but otherwise they're alright

yamaha wrote: But your state puts up speed camera's on I-70 in a marked and flashing light construction zone without ANY SIGN of road construction.

Ours do that to. Rational is because there could be construction happening, at any time.

Several areas also actively target speeders in school zones when schools are not in session. Holidays and the like. They know the tickets are bogus and that you will win if you take it to court, but they also know most folk won't do that and will just pay. Right up there beside the vast numbers of fake parking tickets one of our cities is infamous for issuing.

foxtrapper wrote:

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: Honestly, if you're doing 20 over you deserve a $1000 ticket.

Between the artificially low speed limit zones and simply keeping up with traffic on an interstate highway, 20 over is something many folk do quite regularly.

LOL!! On I-95 in PA the posted limit is 55. You literally need to be doing 70 if you don't want to be a rolling road hazard. Hell, even the little-old-lady drivers are usually doing 75. And since the road is only two lanes through most of Bucks county, speed traps are rare and almost never during rush hour since it becomes a hazard and causes accidents. During off-hours the State troopers don't even look at anyone doing under 70.

The PA Turnpike is similar during rush hour. The left lane is usually doing 90+ at damn near drafting distances... It's amazing there aren't more accidents but when the same people are doing the same thing every day, week after week, year after year, they learn what to do.

foxtrapper wrote:

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: Honestly, if you're doing 20 over you deserve a $1000 ticket.

Between the artificially low speed limit zones and simply keeping up with traffic on an interstate highway, 20 over is something many folk do quite regularly.

What do you mean by artificially low speed limit? They place up signs stating the construction zone speed limit, basically slow the berkeley down: there is something going on ahead.

I understand what you are saying about doing 20 over to keep up with traffic, because everyone is doing 20 over, but when everyone is doing 10 over and that one shiny happy person is swerving through traffic so they can do 20-25 over, then yes, they deserve to get a ticket.

You want an artificially slow speed limit? Rt 27, far west Broward county., tsouth Florida. 4 straight, flat, lanes with a 100 yard median. Speed limit drops from 65 to 45 for about 5 miles, then back up. There is NOTHING out there, it is on the very edge of the Everglades. Oddly, I have never seen enforcement there. Would be a good opportunity for them, though.

Some of you act as though obeying speed limits is some sort of hardship. Grow up already. You want to go fast? Take it to the track!

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: What do you mean by artificially low speed limit?

Um, a speed limit...that's artificially low?

Didn't think it was that complex a statement.

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: Honestly, if you're doing 20 over you deserve a $1000 ticket.

There are situations where going less than 20 over the speed limit would mean you are putting your life in danger, it just depends on the situation. Its true that most of the time you can drive safely without going more than 10 over though.

1988RedT2 wrote: Some of you act as though obeying speed limits is some sort of hardship. Grow up already. You want to go fast? Take it to the track!

I want to go a reasonable, safe speed.

mtn wrote:

1988RedT2 wrote: Some of you act as though obeying speed limits is some sort of hardship. Grow up already. You want to go fast? Take it to the track!

I want to go a reasonable, safe speed.

Exactly. Speed Limits do nothing to limit speed, and speed is not a factor in a vast majority of accidents. It's a revenue generating establishment and nothing more. That's what the hardship is.

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: Honestly, if you're doing 20 over you deserve a $1000 ticket.

I'm glad there's an Indiana State Trooper who doesn't agree with you. I got a written (scribbled, actually) warning for 85 in a 65 about 10 years ago. No traffic, wide open stretch of I-65 between Indy and Louisville. Van full of co-workers all made fun of me until I got just a warning.

In reply to Kramer:

It's always the discretion of the police, my statement was regarding in the middle of the day with traffic

1988RedT2 wrote: Some of you act as though obeying speed limits is some sort of hardship. Grow up already. You want to go fast? Take it to the track!

Two of the towns nearby have 15 mph speed limits. Yes, that is a hardship. Even for grown ups.

What’s the first offense for a weapons violation in those states?

Hey johnny socialist, you're the berkeleying journalist right? Why don't you do a little research answer your own retarded rhetorical question that has nothing to do with the article that took you 30 seconds to write?

Jesus christ. I'm in the wrong business.

I've gotten some whoppers in GA. None anywhere near $1,000. Back in the days before the "Super Speeder" law, 26 over (96 in a 45) was $350. I'm assuming you 'd tack on $200 for the "Sonny Perdue Tax (aka Super Speeder)" today...or just go to berkeleying court.

But yeah. GA sucks bag. They have figured out that RIDICULOUSLY ARTIFICIALLY LOW speed limits, DANGEROUS AS THEY ARE can pull serious revenue with very little work by Officer Droopy Dog & Co.

F*CK the ATL PD and their masters. Seriously.

I dare you to obey the speed limit on the downtown connector or 285 some time...actually, I need to put together a 55 MPH rolling road block through ATL one of these days. Complete with a biiiiig camera crew.

wbjones wrote: but what I've done is keep a $10 El-Cheepo and just hand them that ... they then drop it on the pavement and look you in the eye and say "oops" ... pretty much daring you to try to do anything about it

Now I want to make a radar detector tar baby to hand over to cops if I ever go through Virginia. Take a plastic box, put some lights on it, smear it with tar except in a spot you can hold it by when handing over to the cop.

Ok, the way you'd probably have the book thrown at you for trying that would probably kill the market for them. This probably would be better as a gag in a movie than in real life.