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bludroptop
bludroptop SuperDork
11/9/10 1:37 p.m.

I just saw an A2 Jetta sporting "Antique Vehicle" tags. I guess they are 25 years old by now. Crap, I feel old.

oldsaw
oldsaw SuperDork
11/9/10 2:21 p.m.

Don't sweat the petty stuff; pet the sweaty stuff. It happens to all of us, if we live long enough.

I'm considering an "antique vehicle" tag for my Prelude in a few months; it will help me celebrate the emissions-test emancipation.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
11/9/10 2:22 p.m.

Yeah, that stings.

Ian F
Ian F Dork
11/9/10 2:37 p.m.

My '88 325is will get classic tags, although not antique. Mainly so I can avoid the hassle of the yearly PA emissions inspection. But that said, it already has classic car insurance.

Cone_Junky
Cone_Junky Reader
11/9/10 3:27 p.m.

berkeleying CA! 1975 is our emmisions testing cutoff-period.

My 89 240SX or 86 GTI would have been sooo much more fun if I could get around that crap.

CaptainSpaulding
CaptainSpaulding Reader
11/9/10 3:34 p.m.

It was a little bit of a wake up call for me when people started selling restoraion parts for fox chassis mustangs.

I drove a 83 GT in high school and it was 7 years old then.

CaptainSpaulding
CaptainSpaulding Reader
11/9/10 3:34 p.m.

It was a little bit of a wake up call for me when people started selling restoraion parts for fox chassis mustangs.

I drove a 83 GT in high school and it was 7 years old then.

mndsm
mndsm Dork
11/9/10 3:37 p.m.

Friend of mine has an FB on collector plates... yikes. Since when were FB's collector cars? Or even old enough to be lol.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy HalfDork
11/9/10 3:59 p.m.

Bought my 82 Camaro new. Gotta buy parts from Year One now, and next year I get to antique plate it for $125.

Duke
Duke SuperDork
11/9/10 4:04 p.m.
Cone_Junky wrote: berkeleying CA! 1975 is our emmisions testing cutoff-period.

Well, OK, that's what you get for living somewhere that all the pre-1975-era cars haven't completely biodegraded.

Ian F
Ian F Dork
11/9/10 4:11 p.m.
Cone_Junky wrote: berkeleying CA! 1975 is our emmisions testing cutoff-period. My 89 240SX or 86 GTI would have been sooo much more fun if I could get around that crap.

Well, it doesn't really give me carte-blanche to do whatever I want. The car is supposed to remain stock in both appearance and equipment in order to qualify for classic registration in PA. It also needs to be in better than average condition. The tag restricts the use of the car moreso than even classic insurance. Commuting is restricted to one day a week and other use is supposed to be for club events and shows. That said, our autocross events are run by the the SCCA... the Sports Car Club of America.

That said, as long as the car looks and sounds reasonably stock (forget fancy or crappy paint, slamming it and/or any sort of super-loud exhaust), the police around me are pretty lenient. Hell, I drove my '78 Spitfire for a year and a half with no inspection at all and the cops didn't seem to care. However, I'm not ready to push my luck on the 10-year newer BMW.

There seems to be a push in some states to skip emissions inspections for any car older than OBD II. I wish that would happen in PA since right now we have a dyno test for non-OBD II cars and getting the E30 to pass has been a problem. Which is annoying since the engine is bone-stock and all of the emissions equipment is in place and relatively new.

integraguy
integraguy Dork
11/9/10 4:35 p.m.

You think you feel old, I told a co-worker today that I remember my first brand new, zero miles on the odo car....a '72 Vega that cost all of $2,400.00. And I remember when VW sold brand new cars for less than $2000.

hotrodlarry
hotrodlarry Reader
11/9/10 7:38 p.m.
Streetwiseguy wrote: Bought my 82 Camaro new. Gotta buy parts from Year One now, and next year I get to antique plate it for $125.

My '83 has antique plates.... cost $36

porksboy
porksboy Dork
11/9/10 7:58 p.m.

My 1990 CRX carries regular tags, they were $25.00 two months ago. It should be about $40.00 this year. 8) Only 4 more years for emissions. :D

Will
Will HalfDork
11/9/10 8:18 p.m.

The way we can perceive vehicle age can be goofy. I have a friend who's a long-time hot rodder; he built his first hot rod, a Model A, in the late 60s. He told me once that the 67 Nova currently in his garage is older now than that Model A was when he built it. But to him the Nova just doesn't seem that old, and the A seemed ancient even when he built it.

It's definitely weird for me to think that there are kids in high school, with driver's licenses, who weren't alive when my Supercoupe rolled off the production line.

RossD
RossD Dork
11/9/10 8:42 p.m.

We have "Hobbyist Plates" in Wisconsin that are similar to collector plates but let you get away with some things that normal cars cant (ie bumper heights, tires hanging out past fenders, louder exhaust...)

Ian F
Ian F Dork
11/9/10 8:44 p.m.

In PA, we have something similar "Collectible" plates, which seem to cover kit cars and heavily modified cars.

Appleseed
Appleseed SuperDork
11/9/10 9:12 p.m.

Year of manufacture plates rule.

neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
11/9/10 11:07 p.m.
Appleseed wrote: Year of manufacture plates rule.

Does that mean I can find some old NY "Liberty" plates for serenity in a few years?

DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade Reader
11/10/10 9:41 a.m.

I saw an antique tag on a Honda the other day. In MS, as long as it's over 25 years old, you're fine. So that 84 Honda was fair game.

Paul_VR6
Paul_VR6 Reader
11/10/10 9:50 a.m.
Ian F wrote: In PA, we have something similar "Collectible" plates, which seem to cover kit cars and heavily modified cars.

They are a total pain to get.

I have classic tags on my 95 GTI...

Ian F
Ian F Dork
11/10/10 12:26 p.m.
Paul_VR6 wrote: They are a total pain to get. I have classic tags on my 95 GTI...

I got that impression after considering them for my Spit 6 which would have had no hope of passing the emissions requirements for a '1978 car with a Mk I GT6 engine... but after driving around the car with no sticker at all for over a year and never getting hassled, I decided it wasn't worth the effort.

Paul_VR6
Paul_VR6 Reader
11/10/10 3:19 p.m.

There's no emissions if you keep it under 5k/yr no matter what... it's how my Disco passed with a CEL ;)

16vCorey
16vCorey SuperDork
11/10/10 3:40 p.m.

I wonder I could get antique plates for my dd 944? I wonder if they'd get suspicious that I drive zero miles a year, since my odo is broken?

pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/10/10 3:46 p.m.

My '85 MR2 qualifies for Classic Tags, but I don't want to be restricted to once a week or anything like that. I just stay under 5000 miles per year to avoid emissions. My local club has a vintage class for over 25 years old, but the other cars in that class are way harder to beat than STS!

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