pilotbraden
pilotbraden Dork
10/12/11 8:01 a.m.

This airplane ran short of fuel while flying from the west coast to Hawaii. The Coast Guard flew along side for about an hour until the tanks ran dry. The pilot is uninjured.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt0K1OwlKQM

nocones
nocones GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
10/12/11 8:35 a.m.

Did that plane have any chance of making it from US mainland to Hawaii or was that guy lucky to make it as far as he did?
What a waste of a perfectly good airplane either way. Good on the coast gaurd for helping him out. I hear they talked him in to "train" him to ditch it without injury.

pilotbraden
pilotbraden Dork
10/12/11 9:11 a.m.

With extra tanks airplanes like that can cross the oceans easily. I suspect a leak or a transfer pump failure. It could also be that the wind was not as forecast.

Appleseed
Appleseed SuperDork
10/12/11 2:58 p.m.

That was actually a pretty good ditching.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/12/11 3:21 p.m.

That's a Cessna 310. I can't tell if it's a Turbo model or not, but it is definitely newer than my Dad's 64 310i (as this one has the long nose and humpback). I know the newer 310's have more range, but there's no way one could make it to Hawaii. Either that's not a 310, or they weren't going to Hawaii. We did Florida to Maryland non-stop, and I think that was pushing it.

MG_Bryan
MG_Bryan Reader
10/12/11 3:28 p.m.
Javelin wrote: That's a Cessna 310. I can't tell if it's a Turbo model or not, but it is definitely newer than my Dad's 64 310i (as this one has the long nose and humpback). I know the newer 310's have more range, but there's no way one could make it to Hawaii. Either that's not a 310, or they weren't going to Hawaii. We did Florida to Maryland non-stop, and I think that was pushing it.

Don't they strip the interior out and make it into a flying gas can for flight like that?

Osterkraut
Osterkraut SuperDork
10/12/11 3:38 p.m.
Osterkraut
Osterkraut SuperDork
10/12/11 3:43 p.m.
MG_Bryan wrote:
Javelin wrote: That's a Cessna 310. I can't tell if it's a Turbo model or not, but it is definitely newer than my Dad's 64 310i (as this one has the long nose and humpback). I know the newer 310's have more range, but there's no way one could make it to Hawaii. Either that's not a 310, or they weren't going to Hawaii. We did Florida to Maryland non-stop, and I think that was pushing it.
Don't they strip the interior out and make it into a flying gas can for flight like that?

Internal tanks and an FAA Ferry Permit.

aircooled
aircooled SuperDork
10/12/11 3:45 p.m.
MG_Bryan wrote: Don't they strip the interior out and make it into a flying gas can for flight like that?

Not sure with this plane, but they usually will add a tank in the luggage compartment. My sisters 49 170 has a reserve tank hanging over the luggage area. It doesn't really have much impact.

These conversions used to be very popular for "trips" from Mexico to the US then back where you really don't want to land for fuel.

Obviously useful load and weight and balance are affected, but generally you are not planning on carrying a full load of passengers and luggage anyway. Plenty of room for bushels apparently.

pilotbraden
pilotbraden Dork
10/12/11 4:06 p.m.

It is a 310R. I have flown 2 different 310Rs. One held 203 gallons of fuel, the other held 173 gallons of fuel. For long range ferry flights tanks are installed in baggage compartments and the cabin. The ferry tanks feed into the permanent tanks usually using an electric pump to transfer the fuel. I planned on burning 30 gallons per hour, cruising at 175 knots. The distance from Los Angeles to Hilo is 2128 nautical miles. With calm wind it would take 12.2 hours and require 365 gallons of fuel.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/12/11 5:28 p.m.

Well an R Model is significantly different then the "I" I am used to and have flown, but damn that's still a long way off. Where do you put another 165+ gallons of gas on the thing and plumb it all in?

The0retical
The0retical New Reader
10/12/11 11:55 p.m.

In reply to Javelin:

310s get the popular drug running "Water bed" mod where the rear seats are removed and bladders are put in its place. I've worked on a seized 310 that has had that mod. You could conceivably put a legitimate tank or bladder into the rear of the aircraft and get that sort of range.

The modified 310s were setup for a Florida to South America run from my understanding.

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