Anybody else watching the XBOX One reveal?

i dug out and hooked up my Dreamcast a few months ago... played Hydro Thunder for about an hour.. unhooked it and put it away...

maybe someday i'll drag out the Sega Master System if i can remember where it is..

I don't have a lot of exposure to the 360, but I do know the latest OS release has turned the interface into a large marketing / sales interface, with some other functions stuffed in there. This is for a product you paid good money for, and pay a yearly fee for. (reminds me of the cable providers that cram advertisements into the channel guide). I dread what Microsofts next step is for that.

The PS3's interface is far cleaner in that respect. I really hope they don't start going all MS "let me sell you this" with the new one.

novaderrik wrote: i dug out and hooked up my Dreamcast a few months ago... played Hydro Thunder for about an hour.. unhooked it and put it away... maybe someday i'll drag out the Sega Master System if i can remember where it is..

Hell yes, the Dreamcast was an awesome console. My favorite was Soul Calibur. I gave it to my nephews and still have to go over and kick their butts at it every now and then.

Show me where you have to be hooked into the internet to play games. You can't show me that, except where a bunch of PS fanboi's are telling you that.

In reply to dculberson:

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racerfink wrote: Show me where you have to be hooked into the internet to play games. You can't show me that, except where a bunch of PS fanboi's are telling you that.

You dont have to be connected all of the time, but basically once every 24 hours the games have to check in to the servers, or something as yet unnamed will happen, probably the games will stop working.

I am impressed with the advance in tech when it comes to the Kinect sensor. I think it is a really cool piece of equipment that could have some awesome applications, but i feel like most of those applications are in things other than gaming, and i am looking forward to what people do with these new kinects

And not to be a conspiracy nut with a tin foil hat or anything but I am also slightly worried about having a camera that is good enough to read my pulse, and that is always on and always connected to the internet sitting in my living room. Not because people could hack it and spy on me or whatever, but because it would mean I was giving microsoft permission to spy on and collect data on me, depending on what the terms of service for the system are. Think of all the other things that could be gained from that camera that microsoft could then use to try and tailor adds and push games towards you. Think about it, you are playing forza and before every race while the game is loading you are forced to watch 15 second ads for weight loss products and exercise games because your kinect sensor saw that you were slightly overweight, or games for kids because little tommy and susie were playing on the floor in front of the Kinect, or condoms and sex toys because your roommate berkeleyed his girlfriend on the couch in front of the sensor while it watched.

I am being over dramatic on purpose, and the new xbox (I refuse to call it the Xbox one, as it is the third xbox, and just calling it the One, like people call the xbox 360 just the 360, is just stupid in my opinion) wont do anything like this, or at least I am fairly sure they wouldn't, but they could probably get away with it if they wanted to, just look at youtube. Used to be you didnt have to watch ads before watching videos of cats playing the piano, but that has changed and youtube can get away with it because one they are making money and two there isnt anywhere else for people to go, and the same two things would apply to the companies making the games.

Again I am being overly dramatic on purpose (its fun to sometimes be the wacko that comes up with crazy theories that no one believes will happen, especially if you end up being right 10 years down the road).

SciroccoPhil wrote: And not to be a conspiracy nut with a tin foil hat or anything but I am also slightly worried about having a camera that is good enough to read my pulse, and that is always on and always connected to the internet sitting in my living room.

What could possibly go wrong?

I am probably going to buy a PS4 just because of the pay to use borrow or used games. That is some stupid E36 M3.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:

Really!! We only have this because people refuse to pay for content. I think the picture should have the word "you" on the red figure and "musician" of the green figure.

In reply to 93EXCivic:

I doubt that will actually happen now. Different game studios can still do that though.

I guess I am patiently awaiting pricing to decide if I want in on the FM5 release. Either way I'll preorder the collectors edition of the game itself. berkeley all the peasants and their lack of having cars.

Sounds facinating... but considering I'm still putzing around with an original Xbox, Project Gotham 1 &2 and Forza 1, I doubt I'll buy it.

SciroccoPhil wrote: And not to be a conspiracy nut with a tin foil hat or anything but I am also slightly worried about having a camera that is good enough to read my pulse, and that is always on and always connected to the internet sitting in my living room.

What are you doing in your living room that you don't want us to see?

N Sperlo wrote: What are you doing in your living room that you don't want us to see?

Picking my nose, scratching my a$$, and anyway NOTHING I do in my home is anyone else's business. I know you were being funny but if you want to research how to reach me more effectively in your advertising I don't want to help you out.

When I want you, I'll find you. I don't want you finding me.

Sultan wrote: Really!! We only have this because people refuse to pay for content. I think the picture should have the word "you" on the red figure and "musician" of the green figure.

No, "entertainment" is finally becoming the price it should be for art (IMO).

And also, Mindless Self Indulgence (a band I like) released their final album on kickstarter. We need $150k in pledges to buy or E36 M3, or you'll never see the album.

$250k later, everyone is happy. How cool is that? It's never been a better time to be a musician starting out IMO, the only ones who are mad are the ones who want to earn hundreds of millions of dollars instead of tens of millions of dollars.

In reply to SciroccoPhil: Do you think that they'd risk not making a sale to somebody who doesn't have internet (btw, there are still a large number of them out there)?

And I laugh at all the people who don't think Sony is going to allow EA Sports to charge for games you bought used. EA Sports is the one who started all this if I remember correctly.

I laffed!

In reply to Swank Force One:

That's awesome.

racerfink: The information you're looking for with links to the Wired and Kotaku articles to clarify different points. http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/05/xbox-one-not-always-on-not-backwards-compatible/

And here's what I'm talking about, from this link http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/05/what-to-expect-when-youre-expecting-microsoft-to-announce-the-next-xbox/

’Net connections and used games

Judging by Internet comments, this may be the most important question to be answered tomorrow. Reports that Microsoft's next system will use some method to block the play of used games have been circulating for more than a year now, and in recent months those rumors have centered on a required Internet connection to enforce that blockage, along with one-time installs for disc-based games. Let's not forget about the tweeted suggestion to "deal with it" ("It" being a supposed online requirement) that led to the termination of former Microsoft Studios creative director Adam Orth.

Given all that build-up, it was a bit surprising when Ars received word from an insider source about a Microsoft memo suggesting that things like playing single-player games, watching Blu-ray movies, and playing live TV through the next Xbox should "just work," even when the system is offline. We stand by that report and think it largely overrules all the rumors that came before it (and it gels with a recent rumor that DRM decisions will be left up to publishers).

SciroccoPhil wrote: ...And not to be a conspiracy nut with a tin foil hat or anything but I am also slightly worried about having a camera that is good enough to read my pulse, and that is always on and always connected to the internet sitting in my living room....

Normally I might call this silly, but the heavy focus Microsoft has on marketing in the XBox and have an always on camera watching you all the time.... I think Microsoft will find it hard not to take advantage of this.

Tangent possibility: could the FBI / Homeland Security subpoena (or not bother) access to your XBox camera? (talk about tin foil hat time).

In reply to aircooled:

Guess I'll just have to unplug my new Xbox as well as let my smartphone die before plotting my crimes in the living room.

Now, I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but I sincerely doubt that Microsoft has an army of employees who sit down and monitor Kinect footage all day. And if they do, I hope they enjoy watching me play Forza in my undies.

In reply to racerfink:

Are we arguing about how much we hate the same thing? That link was in response to:

racerfink wrote: Show me where you have to be hooked into the internet to play games. You can't show me that, except where a bunch of PS fanboi's are telling you that.

ArsTechnica May 22 2013, 1:30am AST The company says that it will require an Internet connection at least some of the time, however. The console will use its "mostly on" Internet connection to perform system management tasks such as downloading updates in the background, backing up game saves to cloud storage, and synchronizing things like the TV shows or movies that you're watching between consoles so that you can start watching a film on one device and pick up where you left off on another.

Kotaku 5/21/2013 6:43pm Kotaku: If I’m playing a single player game, do I have to be online at least once per hour or something like that? Or can I go weeks and weeks? Harrison: I believe it’s 24 hours. Kotaku: I’d have to connect online once every day. Harrison: Correct.

Microsoft is backtracking with the update at the bottom of that Kotaku article saying that it was just a scenario Phil Harrison came up with and they haven't finalized anything. You know because a vice president doesn't keep up with the details of the item his division is devoted to building.

Yeah, that once every 24 hours and only cloud storage? Nope....not gonna happen here. Hope they change it. I won't have my saves or anything else on a damn cloud drive. My internet isn't reliable enough nor fast enough as it is.....

There is a reason I put the 250GB drive in my 360.