Anyone ever not given a 2 week notice?

alfadriver wrote: Are you allowed to just go to a competitor? Around here, if you give two weeks, you get two weeks of paid vacation if you end up going to a competitor.

This is common.

mtn wrote: - Email myself my personal files as well as the templates of tools that I have designed; obviously with all data removed

Advance notice - you probably won't like what I have to say next...

Anything you designed or created while in their employment is the intellectual property of the company. Taking it is theft. Emailing it to yourself is evidence of the theft. Certainly grounds to withhold the bennies you hope to gain by staying until the 2nd - possibly grounds for your future employer to rescind their offer.

Your personal files shouldn't be there in the first place, unless you have explicit authorization in advance.

I've seen the two-week notice go both ways.

One guy was moving out of state. He worked just as hard as he always did, for those two weeks.

The other guy.... well, three hours into the day after he put in his notice, was sent packing. He was screwing the pooch and bragging about how great his new job (at a competitor) will be.

In each job I have left I gave the most amount of notice possible and was never walked out. One was almost a month before I went to work for GRM and I was later rehired on the recommendation of that manager.

In the insurance claims business they tend to want you to work out and close the files you can. Claims seems to be a very insestiuous business so I try not to burn any bridges. IMO a weeks worth of notice is not completely inappropriate.

If you don't think you are particularly liked within the company, you probably wouldn't use anyone there as a professional reference. It would show up as you working there, and if a future potential employer was curious if you worked there they would call HR and ask "did so and so work there between the dates of such and such?"

It is my understanding that they can't ask anything more than that unless they are listed as a reference.

Like it was said above, its not like when an employer terminates you, they do so on your schedule. You can't say "hey, I'd like to work at least until the end of the month because I really need the money."

Nor does a past employer say "well we liked the guy, and he was a great worker, but we had to let him go." No, they simply say "that employee was terminated on such and such a date."

When you leave is your business. Unless you want/need the reference.

ScreaminE wrote: I was under the impression that if you gave a two week notice and they said pack you're E36 M3 and leave now, they are obligated to pay you that two weeks.

Not if you are in a "at will employment" state. You can be dismissed for any reason at any time without notice.

Ninja Edit: I see BDT covered this.

I would not email yourself your files. That's kind of a no-no, and you are creating a permanent record of that happening. Unless you work for the federal government, apparently, who never backs up email servers and all employee computers just happen to have hard drive failures if anyone wants to look at an email. But only our government could operate that way, because if corporations did that, they would be put out of business by the same federal government.

Now, if you backed your files up to a thumb drive, well, that one is pretty hard to trace. Just sayin'.

bludroptop wrote:

mtn wrote: - Email myself my personal files as well as the templates of tools that I have designed; obviously with all data removed

Advance notice - you probably won't like what I have to say next... Anything you designed or created while in their employment is the intellectual property of the company. Taking it is theft. Emailing it to yourself is evidence of the theft. Certainly grounds to withhold the bennies you hope to gain by staying until the 2nd - possibly grounds for your future employer to rescind their offer. Your personal files shouldn't be there in the first place, unless you have explicit authorization in advance.

Good advice. Will not be emailing anything I created for work, other than my personal files--I did not have explicit authorization, but it isn't anything I'm worried about. It is just easier to access my 401k information from work, so I've kept the document here.

Dr. Hess wrote: Now, if you backed your files up to a thumb drive, well, that one is pretty hard to trace. Just sayin'.

2 things on this: 1, if I wouldn't email it, I wouldn't do it on a thumb drive. Not worth it. 2, I can't. Thumb drives are disabled.

If it makes you feel any better, I plan on quitting Sam's Club with an honest to God flame Thrower.

I left a job once without notice. Pissed people off, but I moved to the next job and never looked back.

Once I was working in IT, I've had contracts end abruptly, etc. so its not the end of the world and no more or less jarring to those left behind than if you hang around for a couple of weeks doing not much of anything worthwhile (or you're doing too much because they haven't properly cross-trained people in your department or there is a significant lack of proper documentation).

turboswede wrote: (or you're doing too much because they haven't properly cross-trained people in your department or there is a significant lack of proper documentation).

Ding. I'm amazed at the lack of cross training we've had--I'm the only one on the team that can theoretically step into any of the 4 positions on a moments notice. We need another analyst on our team, but it hasn't come through yet. Frankly, it should be my supervisor who backs me up, but thus far she has not made her self available to learn my role. I have issues with her anyways.

Bobzilla wrote: I actually gave my 3 weeks notice last Monday. I'm even working until through Christmas. But, because of that, I'm getting my vacation pay, bonus etc and the boss told me whenever I wanted to come back come.

Which is because you tolerate a lot of E36 M3.

Also of note: If you have any personal items on property, immediately begin, slowly and discretely, taking them home. On the chance that they do escort you off property, you won't get a lot of time to gather up your stuff, if any.

We are expected to give 30 days. I would have tried to negotiate the start date with the new company, so that you could give a full two weeks at least.

As far as burning bridges, it's hard to know where you'll end up or who you'll be working for, so always best to keep it professional.

yamaha wrote:

Bobzilla wrote: I actually gave my 3 weeks notice last Monday. I'm even working until through Christmas. But, because of that, I'm getting my vacation pay, bonus etc and the boss told me whenever I wanted to come back come.

Which is because you tolerate a lot of E36 M3.

Meh.... The place was good to me for 7 of the 10 years.

Cotton wrote: We are expected to give 30 days. I would have tried to negotiate the start date with the new company, so that you could give a full two weeks at least.

I negotiated the date thinking I had 6 weeks; it was a date that was mutually beneficial to both. Then I looked at the HR manual at work and realized they could just let me go and I'd be out that money. So I'm doing the best I can with what I have.

Datsun1500 wrote: I am an employer, so my advice comes from that angle. Anything you did while working for me, is my property. Taking it is theft.

I do not completely agree with this. It is also very industry dependent.

Example #1: You are employed at a garage as a mechanic and own your own tools. You do a lot of "x" job and improvise a tool or procedure for doing it faster or better. The garage owner does not own the tool or procedure if you leave.

Example #2: You work in a creative design field. Work done at a design firm is the property of that firm, or of the client whom hired you. That said, there is the expectation of presenting a portfolio of past work when searching for new work or a new employer. You need to be able to present work you have done in the past to represent your capabilities.

Use your judgement in what you take with you. Emailing yourself anything that may be interpreted as taking IP or confidential info sounds unwise.

I've decided I'm not taking anything other than personal documents with me. The tools that I designed were all in Excel, and if I need them again it won't take me horribly long to put them together again from scratch.

When I left my last job, they saw the writing on the wall. In fact, the day I walked in with my resignation, they knew exactly why I was there, because I don't office very well, and I was in the office. I had a heart to heart with my direct supervisor, explained the situation, and told them what I was looking to do. I had X amount of PTO to burn. Unfortunately I couldn't cash it out, I had to take it, or lose it. They also knew I had them over a rail because as soon as I punched the clock on my last day, they were berkeleyed. So we worked out a mutual agreement that basically amounted to me giving a 2 week notice, taking a week of PTO, coming in on my last day, and then us "agreeing" to my notice being up a week early. They didn't want to burn me as much as I didn't want to burn them, because I had some pretty powerful letters of recommendation on deck from that job. Turned out to be a moot point in the long run, but CYA and all. I'd talk to whoever is actually willing to listen, explain the situation, tell them flat out you're out the door but you're willing to do X to make it kosher, and see what happens. Worst case scenario, you can pack your desk, drop a deuce on the bosses keyboard, and do a fat donut in the courtyard if playing nice doesn't work.

mndsm wrote: Worst case scenario, you're out $1,500

FTFY

This has already been decided and I agree to cover your own ass first because you can pretty much guarantee that if you count on them being nice you are going to get canned then and there.

Anyway, to answer your question, yes twice. Once in College when working at Radio Shack. The Supervisor said "If you don't want to be here" in a staff meeting " then you should go, no hard feelings." I stood up and said that I needed to focus more on school and left. After the meeting one of my friends that worked there did the same thing. The Supervisor apparently broke down because she didn't expect anyone to leave.

Second time with almost two years ago, I was working for a giant electrical supply outfit (Clem Sparks worked there too at the time) and was being put in a position that I didn't sign on for and was starting to let it REALLY affect me. I went in on a Friday afternoon and told my Boss I couldn't do it and walked.

If you have a job lined up (as you do) I wouldn't worry about it. The main thing for the next time you start looking for a job is to decide how to talk about why you left that job before getting asked. Carefully handling past jobs is not always the easiest.

singleslammer wrote: If you have a job lined up (as you do) I wouldn't worry about it. The main thing for the next time you start looking for a job is to decide how to talk about why you left that job before getting asked. Carefully handling past jobs is not always the easiest.

I don't think that will be an issue. First of all, I hope to have a career with this next company. Probably won't happen, simply because to gthe income increases I want, I'll need to jump ship. But secondly, I won't have an employment gap (This job says 2012 to Dec. 2014, next job says Jan. 2015), and if they ask, I can simply say location--which is 100% true--that is why I was looking outside my current company and not trying to have a transition to another position here.

rotard wrote: Tell them on January 1st that your last day will be January 9th. You have to look out for yourself and I wouldn't risk losing $1500 over some people that already hate me. Chances are that they would terminate you immediately to save the 401k match and vacation payout. You shouldn't feel bad; they'd E36 M3can you pronto if they thought they needed to.

This. Never met a company that would not stab an employee if given the chance to save $$$. It would be negligent of your supervisor to let you walk with the extra $$$ in your pocket when it could be in the companies pocket.

If you can get hired before the first of the year, you will be in much better shape. You won't have to wait until 2016 to sign up for 401K, or get your first vacation, etc. Most of that stuff becomes available to new employees at the start of the next year after they are hired. Also if you leave you current job after the first of the year, they may be on the hook to you for the new years vacation time, unused sick time, 401K match, etc. The last time I switched jobs, I did this. The job I was in pissed me off. I was suppose to go into a driver training program, but I got the speech" you are too valuable to let out of the building at the current time". Watched as 3 guys with far less seniority than me get the chance. I started my new job on December 31st and quit my old job without notice 4 hours into Jan 1. New job came around with the vacation signup list, and the 401K sign up forms the second week I was on the job. Old job paid me over 4 grand in unused sick and vacation time as I walked out the door.