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johndej
johndej SuperDork
9/18/23 12:01 p.m.

Apparently pilot bailed and one is missing after presumably crashing in South Carolina north of Charleston. Might have gone down in one of the lakes but have hardly heard mention of it on the news.

Slippery
Slippery GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
9/18/23 12:08 p.m.

Have not seen Toyman post in a couple of days, coincidence?

Mndsm
Mndsm MegaDork
9/18/23 12:12 p.m.

Nope, that's nothing in my pocket, i'm just happy to see ya.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
9/18/23 12:13 p.m.

You'd think all the fancy equipment aboard would have been transporting it's location until it.............wasn't. 

RevRico
RevRico GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/18/23 12:15 p.m.

Isn't that the trillion dollar clusterberkeley of a fighter?

We've got multiple satellites exponentially better than Hubbell pointed at earth for surveillance, how good of camo did they wind up with?

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa UltimaDork
9/18/23 12:17 p.m.
z31maniac said:

You'd think all the fancy equipment aboard would have been transporting it's location until it.............wasn't. 

The transponder wasn't working for some reason.

Toyman!
Toyman! GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/18/23 12:27 p.m.

I saw that on the news yesterday. They crash a plane fairly regularly around here.

The pilot landed about 2 miles from my office in someone's backyard. No clue where the plane came down though. No smoke and no fireball suggest a water landing. They are looking at Lake Moultrie and Lake Marion but that plane could be anywhere.

It has been stated that the autopilot was set when he ejected. It may have stabilized itself and just kept going. It wouldn't be the first time that has happened. 

 

 

Beer Baron
Beer Baron MegaDork
9/18/23 12:54 p.m.

No. But I'm sure I could find an F350 easily. That's like... 10x an F35, right?

NY Nick
NY Nick GRM+ Memberand Dork
9/18/23 1:11 p.m.
Mr_Asa said:
z31maniac said:

You'd think all the fancy equipment aboard would have been transporting it's location until it.............wasn't. 

The transponder wasn't working for some reason.

It is very common for military aircraft to fly with their transponder off. It does seem funny that Uncle Sam doesn't know where it is though. Like previously mentioned about satelites, I always assume that they can see whatever they want. I would think $100M + aircraft would be watched pretty well.

 

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/18/23 1:33 p.m.
NY Nick said:
Mr_Asa said:
z31maniac said:

You'd think all the fancy equipment aboard would have been transporting it's location until it.............wasn't. 

The transponder wasn't working for some reason.

It is very common for military aircraft to fly with their transponder off. It does seem funny that Uncle Sam doesn't know where it is though. Like previously mentioned about satelites, I always assume that they can see whatever they want. I would think $100M + aircraft would be watched pretty well.

Not only with their usual ADSB transponder off, but with all comms systems off for radio silence.

If it crashed into a lake or crashed rather gently into dense forest without starting a fire, that could make it hard to spot even with satellites that can read the newspaper over your shoulder.

NY Nick
NY Nick GRM+ Memberand Dork
9/18/23 1:43 p.m.

In reply to GameboyRMH :

If a plan went into a lake wouldn't there be 100's-1000's of gallons of AV gas with it, wouldn't it leave an oil slick?

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/18/23 1:47 p.m.

In reply to NY Nick :

Jet fuel in this case, but probably yes, unless it somehow went in gently.

j_tso
j_tso Dork
9/18/23 1:53 p.m.
Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/18/23 1:54 p.m.
Toyman! said:

It has been stated that the autopilot was set when he ejected. It may have stabilized itself and just kept going. It wouldn't be the first time that has happened. 

Well yikes. It's just turned into a cruise missile. Or Skynet has its first F35.

Toyman!
Toyman! GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/18/23 2:04 p.m.

There is an amazing amount of swamp and forest around Charleston. It could be down in any of them and not be seen for months. I'm sure the DOD has a satellite combing the area and a team of eyes scanning every bit of image. 

The red path is the last known direction of the plane, hence why they are looking at the lakes. 

If it had a slight left turn going on, it could have made it out to sea. The blue line is mostly over unpopulated areas. Most of it is national forest. This is my bet. It's out to sea or on the ground in the national forest. 

Anywhere inside the purple line is pretty sparsely populated. Lots of pine forest and lumber production, but not much in the way of houses. It could be on the ground anywhere in there. Edit to say that the purple line encompasses about one million acres of area. That's almost 1600 square miles. That's a lot of area to lay eyes on. 

Woody (Forum Supportum)
Woody (Forum Supportum) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/18/23 2:24 p.m.

If this was Florida, I'd be having visions of Karl backing up to it with a rollback.

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
9/18/23 2:56 p.m.

It's got the range to make it to Cuba.....

If it lands in international waters does it follow the standard "finders keepers" rules?

NY Nick
NY Nick GRM+ Memberand Dork
9/18/23 3:32 p.m.

just saw this on the local face place...

johndej
johndej SuperDork
9/18/23 3:34 p.m.

In reply to Purple Frog (Forum Supporter) :

I believe it actually does, they lost one in the south China sea and it was a big race to recover it before any of our adversaries got their hands on it.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 MegaDork
9/18/23 3:37 p.m.
bobzilla said:

It's got the range to make it to Cuba.....

I've heard that someone in Washington may have traded it for some cigars.

Mndsm
Mndsm MegaDork
9/18/23 3:48 p.m.
Keith Tanner said:
Toyman! said:

It has been stated that the autopilot was set when he ejected. It may have stabilized itself and just kept going. It wouldn't be the first time that has happened. 

Well yikes. It's just turned into a cruise missile. Or Skynet has its first F35.

berkeleyin' teslas, man- elon's rides are turning sentient. 

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa UltimaDork
9/18/23 3:54 p.m.
Toyman! said:

There is an amazing amount of swamp and forest around Charleston. It could be down in any of them and not be seen for months. 

Sounds like we need a little green guy telling some Jarhead "Do.  Or do not, there is no try."

slantvaliant (Forum Supporter)
slantvaliant (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
9/18/23 4:04 p.m.

This reminded me of the A10 that went AWOL for a while in 1997.

The bigger thumpers the A10 carried still haven't been located for certain. 

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
9/18/23 4:10 p.m.
Keith Tanner said:
Toyman! said:

It has been stated that the autopilot was set when he ejected. It may have stabilized itself and just kept going. It wouldn't be the first time that has happened. 

Well yikes. It's just turned into a cruise missile. Or Skynet has its first F35.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornfield_Bomber

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