I'm with the OP. You all suck 
As was said, when you say "hatchback" to a normal, non-hairbrained person, they think civic hatchback, swift gti hatchback, golf hatchback.
They don't think wagon (shaped like a jetta) and they don't think a coupe (shaped like an integra).
Wait, is this a hatchback? The window moves to get into the back of it, so...
In reply to Appleseed:
suv
The Wife was interested in the veloster because she wanted a two door. I showed her the extra door on the curb side and she began to twitch and became covered in hives.
ok … this is a Civic (usually called a hatchback) but it has a lift windows, and a drop "trunk" …. so what is it … hatchback ? coupe ? wagon ? ……
A civic with a V8 In the back? It's still a hatchback.
Someone point me in the direction of any definition of coupe that says it has to have a trunk. The only time I've heard that is a couple people here, I can't find any evidence of it being so.
Appleseed wrote: Wait, is this a hatchback? The window moves to get into the back of it, so...
Hey, I was stirring the pot. Don't bring logic into it. 
MadScientistMatt wrote:Appleseed wrote: Wait, is this a hatchback? The window moves to get into the back of it, so...Hey, I was stirring the pot. Don't bring logic into it.
Seriously? You goobers are just being obtuse now.
I love how all of you ignore my questions and just keep on being thick headed. An SUV is an SUV, a wagon is a wagon. I'll repeat it again for the hard of hearing.
In every definition for coupe that I have found, not one has mentioned anything about having a trunk
Are you guys just making this up in your mind?
I'm arguing on the Internet. You were expecting serious?
Not here
nicksta43 wrote: I love how all of you ignore my questions and just keep on being thick headed. An SUV is an SUV, a wagon is a wagon. I'll repeat it again for the hard of hearing. In every definition for coupe that I have found, not one has mentioned anything about having a trunk Are you guys just making this up in your mind?
The definition of a liftback doesn't exactly define a coupe, but pretty much blows holes in your definition of a coupe.
"A liftback is a broad marketing term for a hatchback, which incorporates a shared passenger and cargo volume, with rearmost accessibility via a rear third or fifth door, typically a top-hinged tailgate—especially where the profile aspect of the rear cargo door is more horizontal than vertical, with a sharply raked or fastback profile.[7] In comparison with the hatchback the back opening area is more sloped and longer and is lifted up to open, offering more luggage space. Very similar is the "fastback". Liftback is not used as a term in the UK — fastback or hatchback are used instead."
So what's left? A two door with a trunk and a fixed back window. But wait! In the case of the Mustang, a coupe means a two door with a trunk and a notch style roofline. The fastback has a trunk (oh, but it opens to the passenger compartment), a fixed window, but is not called a coupe. Get the point? None of these terms will ever be agreed on, since they have never been used with any consistency in the industry.
The definition of a coupe.
From Wikipedia: "A coupé or coupe (from the French past participle coupé, of the infinitive couper, to cut) is a closed two-door car body style with a permanently attached fixed roof,[1] that is shorter than a sedan of the same model,[2] and it often has seating for two persons or with a tight-spaced rear seat.[3] The precise definition of the term varies between manufacturers and over time.[4] The term was first applied to 19th-century carriages, where the rear-facing seats had been eliminated, or cut out.[4]"
From the Oxford Dictionary:
"A car with a fixed roof and two doors."
I can't believe something so inane bothers you so much you actually linked all those pictures.
In reply to bravenrace:
I thought you didn't care any more...
OK lets look at what the SAE says a coupe is
"SAE standard J1100 defines a coupé as a fixed-roof automobile with less than 33 cubic feet (930 L) of rear interior volume."
That makes no distinction between what type of trunk it has or if it has a pass through into the trunk. Only rear interior volume defined here. In no way shape or form does anything say the cars I listed as coupes are not coupes.
I'll just leave this here.
In reply to nicksta43:
J1100 also defines a hatchback as "Passenger cars with a rear access door encompassing the back light." - This would include all the cars you called coupes that had rear hatches. And by exclusion defines a coupe as having a trunk, or at least a fixed rear window.
That exclusion is not in there, no where in any thing I've read has it said a coupe has a trunk.
In reply to nicksta43:
What I meant is that since they defined that a hatchback has a rear door that includes the rear window, then a coupe has to be something else. What else would that be? I guess technically it doesn't mean that a coupe cannot be a hatchback, but calling the same type of vehicle both a hatchback and a coupe would be redundant. So I'm saying a coupe does not have a rear hatch by my interpretation of the SAE document. Since I"m on an SAE sub-committee I think I can do that. But in any case it does mean that all the cars you list as coupes are hatchbacks.
I also have a question. What revision of J1100 did you see the definition of a coupe. I have several different revisions levels and can't find that definition anywhere.
The one I'm looking at was June 1984
and I can't find it in there either. Only how to measure the rear passenger volume. Several sources quoted that J1100 as saying that though.
This is the cutest little interweb falafel I believe I've seen in a while. Please continue to argue the fine points of something utterly meaningless for our enjoyment
And for the record, given a two door car, if the passengers can reach over the seat to the rear cargo area, it's a hatchback. (Fastback is simply a marketing name for sleeker models but for definition purposes, functionally identical).
A coupe is a two door where passengers must exit the car in order to access the "trunk" (fold down seats don't count).
And if the vehicle has 4 doors and a rear "hatch". It is indeed a wagon.
Can we all go back to our regularly scheduled discussions of dream cars and what should I buy threads 
nicksta43 wrote: The one I'm looking at was June 1984
I have 4 different revisions of that standard, including the latest, and the only definitions remotely related to this conversation are for a motor vehicle, passenger car, station wagon, hatchback, Multipurpose vehicle, and several sizes of trucks. No coupe.
I'm fine with hatchback coupe. But that is not the same thing as a hatchback. The two body styles are very different. Just look at the pictures again.
nicksta43 wrote: In reply to dculberson: Definitions and descriptions The International Standard ISO 3833-1977 defines a coupé as having a closed body, usually with limited rear volume, a fixed roof of which a portion may be openable, at least two seats in at least one row, two side doors and possibly a rear opening, and at least two side windows.[8] For use in styling, the term coupe refers to a "close-coupled" automobile in that the "couple distance" is the dimension "between the driver's hip joint when seated (which stylists call the "H-point") and the rear axle."[9] Therefore, a "close-coupled car is "one where the front seats are relatively close to the rear wheels, which naturally leaves little or no space for rear-seat passengers."[9] I have found no reference for a coupe having to have a trunk lid? Merriam-Webster made no mention of it and Neither did Wiki. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup%C3%A9
Do you really want to play the strict definition game?
"A hatchback is a car body configuration with a rear door[1][2][3][4][5] that swings upward to provide access to a cargo area."
From your favorite source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatchback
KyAllroad wrote: This is the cutest little interweb falafel I believe I've seen in a while. Please continue to argue the fine points of something utterly meaningless for our enjoyment
Uh, yeah, because like you're the internet car definition authority...
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