Attacked by Stray Dogs

N Sperlo wrote:

wbjones wrote:

N Sperlo wrote: There are lots of wild dogs around the area I work in. I've never had a problem. I've been tempted to bring a few home. On the other hand, while I walk my 90 lb dog, I see how aggressive some other dogs are towards us. It has made the thought go through my head. I would hate to have to shoot a dog. I sell pepper spray to people and dogs are one reason why. We have bear spray. That E36 M3 shoots 30'! Get some bear spray! Glad you're ok.

read somewhere recently, that wasp spray actually works even better … on 4 legged and 2

Wasp spray works great. It burns and has distance. Bear spray is pepper spray with a stream heavier than wasp spray, giving it the advantage. We sell it for bear protection. What one uses it for is up to the individual.

there was something I read recently, LEO endorsed I think, that was advocating keeping the wasp spray with you for self-protection …

so, sounds like the bear spray is sorta the same thing .. (the article mentioned bears and dogs in addition to people)

There is a dog in my neighborhood that escapes once in a while. It has bitten my next door neighbor on the hand and killed several cats in the neighborhood. We've called animal control, but since the person bite is "non-disfiguring" and the cats are not livestock, there is nothing they can do about this dog until it either seriously hurts somebody or kills some kind of livestock. I am sure the owners love the dog to bits, but they don't care how it acts towards others. We've talked to them, and they simply give zero berkeleys about it. The dog is a nuisance, I'm afraid to let my kids play outside unless they are supervised.

I'm tempted to get a chicken and put it in a flimsy coop.

In this state, cats are livestock.

I love dogs, but I've been bitten pretty badly three times, even grabbed and tossed by a German Shepard when I was a kid, with it's owner/trainer present. I've had to use pepper spray and it works very well if you keep it handy. Or, carry a big stick. If you're being attacked, don't swing it, poke with it, but do it like you want it to come out the other side.

The only dog that ever attacked me was a stray poodle. Now, before you laugh, a giant poodle is a hunting dog and I was 7 or 8 years old. It was much larger than me. Saw me from a few yards away and ran at me at full clip. Was jumping and trying to knock me down, luckily dad was close enough to run over and give it a serious kick.

It later bit another child in the neighborhood on the backside enough to draw blood, and that kid's dad was a US Marshall and put it down to stop the attack.

I'm thinking I need to start carrying a spring-loaded expandable steel baton...

The wasp spray advice may have come from me. It's really good to dissuade nasty animals and people, it's actually a low level nerve agent and REALLY unpleasant. Good range and cheap to buy.

My dog attack story is sort of indicative of my personality. I was 8 and our tenant (upstairs apartment of our house) haas an Irish Setter. The dog bit my hand and gave me maybe half a dozen significant punctures (had the scars for years). After I was bandaged up by a friend and the douche nozzle tenant refused to do anything about the dog (I don't know where my folks were, this was a long time ago) I took my lever action Daisy BB gun up on the roof with a couple thousand BBs and shot the dog until I couldn't cock the gun. Might have been overkill but the dog never Berkeleyed with me again.

In reply to Giant Purple Snorklewacker:

The dog whisperers first-hand techniques are probably a bad idea for most people who arent' ready to commit to the action like he is.

but, what he has to say about attitude, calm assertion, and forceful dominance instead of violence can help immensely.

I was sitting in the driveway cleaning some parts and got charged by some medium-weight terrier. He wasn't running full tilt at me, but he had his head slung low, and walking straight at me to the quick.

Kinda like that dog that grabbed that kid in that video before that cat body slammed it.

So i didn't like that, and got to one knee and just made a noise of disapproval. He turned away very quickly, and I just sat down.

He was big enough to do some damage even if he wasnt german shepherd or bull sized, but I was able to assert my dominance over the space enough that he didn't want to challenge it. Does it work all the time? No, but it goes a long way to controlling a situation.

stroker wrote: I'm thinking I need to start carrying a spring-loaded expandable steel baton...

You probably don't want to be caught with one in a lot of areas.

Kenny_McCormic wrote:

stroker wrote: I'm thinking I need to start carrying a spring-loaded expandable steel baton...

You probably don't want to be caught with one in a lot of areas.

You don't really want spring-loaded anything. Just learn how to work a regular expandable baton and you'd be fine.

its more that those things are covered under concealed weapons laws in lots of jurisdictions. same laws as firearms...

As a child I was run down by a pack of wild dogs. The thing that saved me was my father jumping the fence and yelling/running/throwing E36 M3 at them to stop them. The lead dog was less than a foot off my feet (i'd tripped and fallen running to Mom and Dad scared). Growing up, wild dogs dumped by piece of E36 M3 owners was common. Unfortunately, we were left to take care of the problem. Being a dog lover, it's not easy. We killed 12 dogs in a 2 week period, the neighbors around us did similar and there were still packs roaming that we eventually thinned down.

The difference between a dog and coyote tends to be the lack of fear of human scent. Coyotes tend to stay away from people as they are unfamiliar with us. Dogs, especially ones that have been dumped by E36 M3ty owners, do not share that fear and when they become hungry, a small human is perfectly fine food to them.

Sadly, I've realized this is starting at my place. We just dealt with a wonderful pit/boxer mix a few weeks back. Took all day to find someplace to take him in and they charged us because some piece of E36 M3, worthless berkeley dumped him instead of manning up and taking care of their berkeleying dog. Sadly, I doubt the next one will get that kind of care because we don't have the time or money to take care of someone else's problem their too berkeleying lazy to do on their own. There's a reason every walk/ride is accompanied by one of these:

Honestly, after the last one, I'd rather put down the E36 M3ty person that dropped him off rather than the dog. Seriously.... who could do that to this face: