In reply to NGTD:
i understand that they're required to report that to the police, but are they not required to ask any questions, like "is this a toy gun that shoots plastic disks?"
i mean, the law is one thing, but to assume that it is a real firearm rather than a toy seems like jumping to some pretty serious conclusions, no? thats like calling the cops on a parent when the kid comes to school with a scraped knee. yes, its a possibility but there are more likely causes.
Strizzo wrote: In reply to NGTD: i understand that they're required to report that to the police, but are they not required to ask any questions, like "is this a toy gun that shoots plastic disks?" i mean, the law is one thing, but to assume that it is a real firearm rather than a toy seems like jumping to some pretty serious conclusions, no? thats like calling the cops on a parent when the kid comes to school with a scraped knee. yes, its a possibility but there are more likely causes.
I agree with you, that is why I think the guy deserves an apology.Passing laws like this is what causes this kind of stupidity. People blindly follow the rules without so much as any form of thought.
you mean those laws that are so strictly written there is no wiggle room in how to interpert how it applies or what the sentence should be?
mguar wrote: In reply to Strizzo: You've never wasted days on a disposition where some hungry lawyer is trying to pad the bill and asking you countless questions most of which have nothing to do with the matter.. The only way to prevent all that is call the authorities.. Let them deal with it..
what are you talking about? lawyer? teacher? wha??
In reply to mguar:
I am having a tough time finding a report that breaks down the numbers you are putting up.
I'm especially having a tough time intellectually accepting transportation as a major cost factor without some more specific documentation.
This is because as per my 2nd link from the department of education website, the cost of the department was around $250 billion in 1990. In 2004 it stands at $536 billion.
Transportation costs are a real factor, because the US is much more rural and spread out than most countries. Walking to school is only an option form maybe %5 of a schools' population.
But if the transportation component is $20 billion dollars... its not like the United States has spread out MORE somehow in 15 years. And bus capacity is anywhere from 50 to 100 kids so its not like a given fleet is being overcrowded. Most busses never fill to capacity. And there are plenty of HS age kids that drive where the state law permits it.
so in the span of 15 years, the budget for the dept of education essentially doubled. Did transportation costs the entire time run at nearly the $20 billion mark the whole time? Was it closer to $10 billion in 1990 and grew in exact proportion to all other compensations in the education budget? I somehow doubt this.
I'm in need of more info if you can provide it.
NGTD wrote: His 4 year-old drew a picture of herself holding a gun and then told her teacher that her dad let her use the gun unsupervised. In Ontario a teacher must report that kind of stuff (It is the law). Turns out it was one of those toy plastic guns that shoots plastic disks across the room. I think the guy does deserve an apology.
This is why I said it was an abuse of power. They know they have the power to make this happen, but being educated, and in a position of responsibility, should also be obligated to use common sense and determine when and how to use that power. Clearly nobody along the way did.
And what's a 4 year old doing in school, anyway?
It's hardly a Canadian thing:
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1139320--student-s-cellphone-autocorrect-prompts-lockdown-of-georgia-schools?bn=1
mad_machine wrote: you mean those laws that are so strictly written there is no wiggle room in how to interpert how it applies or what the sentence should be?
Teachers that don't report this kind of stuff end up in front of disciplinary panels and have their teaching certificates revoked. So they don't risk it - better to report it and be wrong then not report.
NGTD wrote: So they don't risk it - better to report it and be wrong then not report.
Yeah, it's so much better to have a social worker possibly break up a family over a drawing of a toy gun than to actually think for yourself.
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