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pilotbraden
pilotbraden HalfDork
3/21/11 2:38 p.m.

This would be too sensible to happen.

If your accountant told your family that you are spending 40 percent more than you are earning and that your borrowing limits have been reached, how would you cut your expenditures? Would you stop buying food and not pay your mortgage and utilities, or would you first cut out entertainment, such as movies, sports events, cultural performances, nice restaurants and vacation trips? Rational people would do the latter, but government bureaucrats often do the equivalent of the former. This is known as the Washington Monument Ploy, which got its name when a national parks director shut down the Washington Monument and Grand Canyon for two weeks in 1969 to protest budget cuts, rather than cutting administrative costs, deferring maintenance and curtailing new projects.

When faced with a need to cut budgets, the Washington Monument Ploy — or stunt — is the political tactic of shutting down the most visible, popular and/or valuable government service while leaving less important and less appreciated government activities untouched. This is designed to pressure legislators to appropriate more funds for the more popular government service.

Many businesses find that over the years they have allowed some fat to grow in their operations. During recessions or periods of increased competitive pressure, businesses realize they must cut costs drastically in order to remain profitable and survive. Firms like IBM and Ford have done this in recent years, and now both are in fine shape. The process of getting rid of non-essential activities is painful but the alternative is far worse.

All bureaucracies have a tendency to grow fat and lazy over time, whether they are in businesses, nonprofit hospitals, associations, charitable foundations or governments. Other than in government, all other entities normally go through periods of cost-cutting and renewal. Government should not be exempt. Some state and local governments are now suffering through painful, but necessary, cost reductions because they must comply with balanced-budget requirements and they have reached their limits on increasing taxes or borrowing.

Only the federal government can go on without facing normal economic constraints because it prints its own money. However, Congress could require every government agency to rank its programs from the most to the least cost-effective, and present a detailed plan as to how each agency would deal with a required 10, 20 or even 40 percent budget reduction, just as businesses often have to do.

To bring the federal budget into balance this year would require spending cuts of approximately 40 percent. No one has proposed cuts of that magnitude at the moment — Republicans are proposing cuts of about 1.8 percent of this year's budget and Democrats are only proposing cuts of 0.28 percent. If Congress and the administration fail to agree on a budget or debt-limit increase, government tax revenues would only cover about 40 percent of spending, so a ranking of spending priorities would be necessary.

The Republicans are now being criticized in the media for some of their proposed budget cuts. We have all been exposed to the heart-tugging stories of how small children will go without adequate food if the budget is cut. Everyone who has ever worked for or interacted with government knows there is tremendous waste and inefficiencies and that there are programs that just don't need to be funded, such as National Public Radio, the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development, and ethanol subsidies. I often speak before groups of government executives, and when I ask them, "If you were forced to substantially reduce your budgets without impairing the effectiveness of your operation and mission, could you do so — if you were freed from unnecessary paperwork and other absurd requirements?" The answer is almost always "yes," including those in the military.

Rather than taking all of the heat, the members of Congress should do what boards of directors in companies and other organizations do and that is to require management to come up with specific — and very substantial — budget cuts that would not impair the core functions of the organization. Specifically, they should require each government department to state specifically how it would reduce its budget (by some specified amount) in the most cost-effective way, and be prepared to defend it before the appropriate congressional committees. In addition, the government departments should be required to rank the importance of their activities on the Internet and state how they would reduce the budget (if required to)so members of the media and the public could comment on their rankings. Even the managers of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid should be forced to come up with proposed reforms to their programs to meet the budget constraints.

Congress could enforce compliance with this requirement by denying the right of any department to spend monies, after a specified date, until each department has submitted an acceptable budget-cutting plan to Congress. The bureaucrats would hate it, but the American people would relish it.

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=12877

RossD
RossD Dork
3/21/11 2:57 p.m.

-(Runs and hides)....

Duke
Duke SuperDork
3/21/11 2:59 p.m.

This. Also, I firmly believe that each and every law already on the books needs to be re-evaluated and either re-approved or stricken before any new laws may be made.

Between the two of those complete impossibilities, we may just have a chance.

ransom
ransom GRM+ Memberand Reader
3/21/11 3:10 p.m.
Duke wrote: Between the two of those complete impossibilities, we may just have a chance.

That is an excellent quote, and sums up my usual frame of mind quite nicely.

minimac
minimac SuperDork
3/21/11 3:15 p.m.

My school board has operated that way for years.When faced with a need to cut budgets, the Washington Monument Ploy — or stunt — is the political tactic of shutting down the most visible, popular and/or valuable student service while leaving less important and less appreciated administrative activities untouched. This is designed to pressure taxpayers to appropriate more funds for the more popular student services.

Sorry for the flounder.

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/21/11 3:22 p.m.

A nice thought but it will never happen. Every pointless piece of paper that we are required to waste time and money on is the result of some congress persons life work, and since we never replace our congresscritter will will never be able to call thier creation pointless. So we will go on maintaining and submit pointless records or risk large fines if we don't (because the gov't fining the gov't makes perfect sense) and make our savings through layofs and service reductions instead.

integraguy
integraguy Dork
3/21/11 3:26 p.m.

The best Congress ever did when it came to tackling the bloat at the Legislative Branch of the government was to take a pay freeze for about a year....BIG FLYIN' WHOOP. If the Republicans REALLY want to downsize government, they could pass a 10% pay cut, that does not have a painless (to them) time limit of a year or two. When they do that, they can start to work on the so-called bloat at the rest of the federal government.

BTW, for folks who are so concerned about the government funding of NPR, are you bothering to read the part in the newspapers that says the federal government is contributing about 2% of NPR budget? Where the real cuts will come, when NPR is "de-funded" will be at your local PBS station.

oldtin
oldtin Dork
3/21/11 3:33 p.m.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy." Quote attributed to Alexander Fraser Tytler (Scottish guy from the 1700s)

Otto Maddox
Otto Maddox HalfDork
3/21/11 3:40 p.m.

Well, microeconomics does not equal macroeconomics and personal finance does not equal government finance. Not to say change is not necessary, but the premise of the argument is flawed.

chaparral
chaparral GRM+ Memberand Reader
3/21/11 3:51 p.m.

When over 100% of your income goes to the fixed costs, it is time to address the fixed costs, not the 25% of your expenditures that make up your variable costs.

aircooled
aircooled SuperDork
3/21/11 4:12 p.m.

I would say that is a "Premature Flounder Alert". Don't worry it happens to everyone (at least that is what we tell everyone it happens to).

It started as a government funding topic, and that hasn't changed.

No one has starting accusing any sides or calling names... pretty reasonable so far....

fast_eddie_72
fast_eddie_72 HalfDork
3/21/11 4:19 p.m.
oldtin wrote: "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy." Quote attributed to Alexander Fraser Tytler (Scottish guy from the 1700s)

I've heard this quote before. I've often wondered if there is a different interpretation. What if we consider lower - or no taxes a "largess"? I mean, really, the only difference I hear between the two sides is they promise to give us different things. On the one hand "I'll give you free health care!" (I'm taking some liberties here for the sake of argument) On the other, I hear "I'll let you keep more of your money!" I never hear any of them say "well, we need to pay off our debts. So I'll cut a lot of stuff the last guy gave you and if we get things in order, then we can talk about you keeping more of your money."

In short, I think the quote is appropriate, but I'm not sure it indicts one side over the other.

I'm feeling okay about this post since I'm not really taking a side. But it may well lead to pie on my face.

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess SuperDork
3/21/11 4:20 p.m.

How about a 40% across the board cut? Everything. Instant balanced budget. Want more for one program? Whack another.

On this NPR BS, if it's only 2% of their budget, then why are the commies in National Propaganda Radio screaming bloody murder? Whack that 2%. Whack all foreign aid. Then start on "welfare" or whatever it is called today.

Anyway, it will never happen. We're berkeleyed, and it's all being carefully orchestrated. Just like the outsourcing of our engineers.

Oh, and the Federal Government doesn't "print" money. The Federal Reserve, a group of private banks does, then the Federal Reserve loans this new "money" to the federal government at a nice interest rate that your great grandchildren will be paying them back on.

Duke
Duke SuperDork
3/21/11 4:21 p.m.
Otto Maddox wrote: Well, microeconomics does not equal macroeconomics and personal finance does not equal government finance. Not to say change is not necessary, but the premise of the argument is flawed.

100% analogous? Perhaps not. 100% correct? Yes indeedy.

itsarebuild
itsarebuild GRM+ Memberand Reader
3/21/11 5:08 p.m.

the interesting difference between firing private sector workers and public sector workers is that a private sector company looses 100% of the cost to the company. on the other hand, if a government worker gets laid off, then cant find new employment (like in say... a recession), that laid off worker is still going to get paid by the goverment, just for less work output......

just my $.02

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe Reader
3/21/11 5:25 p.m.

OK so we are screwed on the macro scale. How do you take advantage of the fact on micro scale. Serious question.

Someone like me with no debt and significant savings will get wiped out by inflation if they print themselves out of the hole. If so I am going to be rather pissed off, what is there to do other then keep investing external to the US and hope things settle down at home in the longer run.

aircooled
aircooled SuperDork
3/21/11 5:25 p.m.
itsarebuild wrote: .....a private sector company looses 100% of the cost to the company...

I am pretty sure only small percentage (under 10%) of unemployment in paid by the company, the rest of it comes from the employees unemployment account until it runs out. (not counting all the federally funded extensions of course).

madmallard
madmallard Reader
3/21/11 7:23 p.m.

The discussion will be broke until everyone and i mean everyone agrees the government spends too much.

people still think that the government doesn't spend too much, its just those weasely rich people not paying taxes. if only they paid more taxes, we'd be fine.

they don't see the wicked crazy spending the government is doing completely oustrips almost all taxes.

huge-O-chavez
huge-O-chavez SuperDork
3/21/11 7:38 p.m.
Otto Maddox wrote: Well, microeconomics does not equal macroeconomics and personal finance does not equal government finance. Not to say change is not necessary, but the premise of the argument is flawed.

agree 100%.

Apples to oranges...

Salanis
Salanis SuperDork
3/21/11 8:33 p.m.

ZOMG!

Here's a graph of actual U.S. gov't deficit as percentage of GPD:

As you will see, our situation isn't great, but pretty understandable given we're in a recession and at war. Our nation has seen greater deficits and recovered.

aussiesmg
aussiesmg SuperDork
3/21/11 8:40 p.m.

Maybe some of the problem lies here, government stupidity over the past 40 years.

http://biggovernment.com/tag/federal-programs/

No one government has done all of this, they just keep adding to the mess

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/21/11 8:42 p.m.

How about we throw total debt in the mix.

Salanis
Salanis SuperDork
3/21/11 9:01 p.m.

I hate when graphs don't zero at zero. That's a very way of misrepresenting data.

huge-O-chavez
huge-O-chavez SuperDork
3/21/11 9:04 p.m.
Toyman01 wrote: How about we throw total debt in the mix.

What is Total Debt? Does it include personal debt or privately held companies debt? I'm just curious, and If so... How do they get the numbers?

There is no definition..

huge-O-chavez
huge-O-chavez SuperDork
3/21/11 9:09 p.m.
pilotbraden wrote: http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=12877

You linked the Cato Insitute.. Hahahahaha

That's like linking a story that rachel maddow wrote from the other side... Nice try man.

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