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David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
12/8/15 10:57 a.m.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/08/aviation/malaysia-aviation-airport-abandoned-aircraft/index.html

WildScotsRacing
WildScotsRacing Reader
12/8/15 11:03 a.m.

Very suspicious to my mind. One does not simply abandon three 747s, even if you have to go out if business. You would sell them ASAP for the capital. If I were a potential buyer, I wouldn't touch them with a 50 foot tow bar. I would be afraid of what I might inside them...

MrJoshua
MrJoshua UltimaDork
12/8/15 11:05 a.m.

Ya see-that's why you always get full contact information for the buyer, and register the fact that your plane is sold with the airplane tag agency.

MrJoshua
MrJoshua UltimaDork
12/8/15 11:06 a.m.

In reply to WildScotsRacing:

Yeah, I read the ebola filled plane Clancy book too.

Nick (LUCAS) Comstock
Nick (LUCAS) Comstock UltimaDork
12/8/15 11:08 a.m.

Surely they have some identification numbers somewhere on them that would point to who owns them.

DrBoost
DrBoost UltimaDork
12/8/15 11:10 a.m.

I'm thinking ISIS or similar had them waiting to have a 9-11 do-over but without all the pesky interference by passengers or cops and such.

MrJoshua
MrJoshua UltimaDork
12/8/15 11:12 a.m.
Nick (LUCAS) Comstock wrote: Surely they have some identification numbers somewhere on them that would point to who owns them.

An Icelandic company sold them years ago and they have changed hands several times since. Lol- open title planes.

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
12/8/15 11:13 a.m.
Nick (LUCAS) Comstock wrote: Surely they have some identification numbers somewhere on them that would point to who owns them.
from the article said: Several aviation databases list the Boeings -- identified by their call signs TF-ARN, TF-ARH, TF-ARM -- as belonging to leasing firm Air Atlanta Icelandic, but that company says it sold them in 2008.
Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson UltimaDork
12/8/15 11:14 a.m.

It's funny CNN has an item on them now. these pics have been on click bait sites for months with titles like 'Abandoned airports you wont belive'

Nick (LUCAS) Comstock
Nick (LUCAS) Comstock UltimaDork
12/8/15 11:17 a.m.

In reply to Ian F:

Ah, my phone only let me read the first couple paragraphs.

Wall-e
Wall-e GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/8/15 11:21 a.m.

You lose some, you find some, it all works out in the end.

pilotbraden
pilotbraden SuperDork
12/8/15 11:22 a.m.

It is not that uncommon for a company to go bankrupt and have the pilots walk away from the airplanes. It happened in Marquette Michigan. http://uppermichiganssource.com/news/local/russian-made-military-plane-has-an-owner?id=542391

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704334604575339463022126910

pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/8/15 11:23 a.m.

What is the challenge rule for placing 12 GE turbofan engines onto an entry?

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson UltimaDork
12/8/15 11:35 a.m.
pinchvalve wrote: What is the challenge rule for placing 12 GE turbofan engines onto an entry?

I vote a free entry

WildScotsRacing
WildScotsRacing Reader
12/8/15 11:38 a.m.
pinchvalve wrote: What is the challenge rule for placing 12 GE turbofan engines onto an entry?

Pretty sure it's self-policing on that point. FYI, that works out to about 480,000 pounds of thrust (at sea-level, of course).

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe UltraDork
12/8/15 11:44 a.m.

747 are in huge demand right now, even more then the bigger planes. Somebody owns them, or the frames have so much service required that it was cheaper to just park them then part them.

itsarebuild
itsarebuild GRM+ Memberand Dork
12/8/15 11:45 a.m.

If the jet thrust knocks over a cone what is the time penalty? Or better yet what is a melted come worth?

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/8/15 12:05 p.m.

As long as the base of the melted cone is still in the chalk square, there's no penalty.

XLR99
XLR99 GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
12/8/15 12:20 p.m.
itsarebuild wrote: If the jet thrust knocks over the timing trailer, ingests all the cones, and melts the course what is the time penalty? Or better yet what is a melted come worth?

Minor adjustment for accuracy

Are pod racers challenge-eligible?

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/8/15 12:46 p.m.
DrBoost wrote: I'm thinking ISIS or similar had them waiting to have a 9-11 do-over but without all the pesky interference by passengers or cops and such.

If they had that kind of money I'm sure they'd find more "productive" ways to use it. Unlabeled mystery aircraft, when they're not new planes being delivered, are usually owned by governments or corporations who don't want anyone to notice what they're doing with the plane, or don't want anyone to notice that they own a plane, respectively.

dculberson
dculberson UberDork
12/8/15 1:07 p.m.
GameboyRMH wrote: If they had that kind of money I'm sure they'd find more "productive" ways to use it.

They do have that kind of money:

http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/06/news/isis-funding/

$2 billion in 2014.

Wall-e
Wall-e GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/8/15 1:14 p.m.

In reply to GameboyRMH:

Just paint them up as Pan Am jets and call them vintage. Hipsters will go crazy to have them land in their cities solving several problems at once.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/8/15 1:15 p.m.
dculberson wrote:
GameboyRMH wrote: If they had that kind of money I'm sure they'd find more "productive" ways to use it.
They do have that kind of money: http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/06/news/isis-funding/ $2 billion in 2014.

The initial cost of each one of these planes would eat up almost 1/5th of their "GDP." They need all that money for waging war and keeping their awful theocratic state from imploding.

slefain
slefain UberDork
12/8/15 1:33 p.m.

Well, Libya left a few C-130s in Marietta for the last 40 years: http://jalopnik.com/5785891/libyas-planes-are-rotting-in-georgia

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
12/8/15 6:03 p.m.
DrBoost wrote: I'm thinking ISIS or similar had them waiting to have a 9-11 do-over but without all the pesky interference by passengers or cops and such.

747s are not the easiest to fly. ISIS resistant built in.

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