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JFX001
JFX001 UberDork
12/9/14 12:31 p.m.
bravenrace wrote:
logdog wrote: We need to focus our attention on which company we want to put out of business for making non-enthusiast approved cars. Then we can launch a crowd funding campaign to buy the network and factories. Then we can make the best car in the world, sell it to the masses and make some righteous bucks to spend on Miatas. Who is with me!?!?!
The big FAIL in your plan is the same problem that this thread has. The "masses" won't buy the car you build. They buy Civics.

We could bring back Saturn!

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
12/9/14 12:33 p.m.
JFX001 wrote:
bravenrace wrote:
logdog wrote: We need to focus our attention on which company we want to put out of business for making non-enthusiast approved cars. Then we can launch a crowd funding campaign to buy the network and factories. Then we can make the best car in the world, sell it to the masses and make some righteous bucks to spend on Miatas. Who is with me!?!?!
The big FAIL in your plan is the same problem that this thread has. The "masses" won't buy the car you build. They buy Civics.
We could bring back Saturn!

And why exactly would it be wise to bring back a failed car company?

JFX001
JFX001 UberDork
12/9/14 12:41 p.m.

Ah...you inadvertently missed the " ".

Duke
Duke UltimaDork
12/9/14 12:42 p.m.
bravenrace wrote:
JFX001 wrote:
bravenrace wrote:
logdog wrote: We need to focus our attention on which company we want to put out of business for making non-enthusiast approved cars.
The big FAIL in your plan is the same problem that this thread has. The "masses" won't buy the car you build. They buy Civics.
We could bring back Saturn!
And why exactly would it be wise to bring back a failed car company?

Either you're having a problem with your irony detector, or I am with mine.

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
12/9/14 12:44 p.m.

No I didn't miss the , I just didn't get it I guess. What does a failing Saturn have to do with a successful Honda? Must be me, but I confused...

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand Dork
12/9/14 12:50 p.m.

In reply to JFX001:

Sabburn!

turboswede
turboswede GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
12/9/14 12:53 p.m.

In reply to bravenrace:

Saturn was great when it stuck to its initial concept, it was a strong competitor against the Imports and it was an interesting social engineering experiment as well. Once it moved away from that vision and started executing the same bland "engineering" that the rest of GM was doing and got rid of the sales tactics that made it endearing to the public, it became just another GM division selling the same old worn out GM chassis designs with the same shyster sales and service departments.

Much like so many other multi-brand car companies these days, its more often than not the same crap wrapped in slightly different looking bags, set on fire and left on your doorstep.

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
12/9/14 12:54 p.m.

In reply to turboswede:

Thanks for the lesson, Mr. Obvious.

JFX001
JFX001 UberDork
12/9/14 12:55 p.m.

It wasn't ""...it was " "...and it was responding to logdog's post above.

*EDITED

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
12/9/14 1:02 p.m.

In reply to JFX001:

Then why did you reply to me instead?

JFX001
JFX001 UberDork
12/9/14 1:17 p.m.
bravenrace wrote: In reply to JFX001: Then why did you reply to me instead?

Mother of God...you merely got caught up in the shenanigans. I will make sure that I, in the future, will not include you in any attempt at dry humor that you can't/don't "get".

And " "

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
12/9/14 1:27 p.m.

Do I need to turn this car around?

JFX001
JFX001 UberDork
12/9/14 1:31 p.m.
David S. Wallens wrote: Do I need to turn this car around?

Ashyukun
Ashyukun GRM+ Memberand Dork
12/9/14 1:42 p.m.
turboswede wrote: In reply to bravenrace: Saturn was great when it stuck to its initial concept, it was a strong competitor against the Imports and it was an interesting social engineering experiment as well. Once it moved away from that vision and started executing the same bland "engineering" that the rest of GM was doing and got rid of the sales tactics that made it endearing to the public, it became just another GM division selling the same old worn out GM chassis designs with the same shyster sales and service departments. Much like so many other multi-brand car companies these days, its more often than not the same crap wrapped in slightly different looking bags, set on fire and left on your doorstep.

Very much the truth. Saturn started the downward spiral when they expanded out to the larger L-Series and then dropped the S-series and went to the more bloated Ions. Do hope some day to pick up a Sky cheaply... I really wish the attempt DMC made at picking up the Kappa platform rights & factory had worked out...

oldsaw
oldsaw UltimaDork
12/9/14 2:08 p.m.
JFX001 wrote:
David S. Wallens wrote: Do I need to turn this car around?

No, but someone sure needs to take a time-out.

logdog
logdog GRM+ Memberand Dork
12/9/14 2:14 p.m.
David S. Wallens wrote: Do I need to turn this car around?

What kind of car?

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
12/9/14 2:14 p.m.
logdog wrote:
David S. Wallens wrote: Do I need to turn this car around?
What kind of car?

A Civic, of course.

turboswede
turboswede GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
12/9/14 2:17 p.m.
bravenrace wrote: In reply to turboswede: Thanks for the lesson, Mr. Obvious.

This just in.... you've been voted king of the shiny people. May your rule be a long and arduous one fraught with danger.

bravenrace
bravenrace MegaDork
12/9/14 2:20 p.m.
turboswede wrote:
bravenrace wrote: In reply to turboswede: Thanks for the lesson, Mr. Obvious.
This just in.... you've been voted king of the shiny people. May your rule be a long and arduous one fraught with danger.

Thank you very much.

chandlerGTi
chandlerGTi SuperDork
12/9/14 6:09 p.m.

Oooo, he turned it back back around!

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 PowerDork
12/9/14 6:14 p.m.

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand Dork
12/9/14 6:23 p.m.

IATL

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 UltimaDork
12/9/14 6:31 p.m.

What I learned today:
There is an unlock button too.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin UltraDork
12/9/14 6:35 p.m.

I would consider another car from Saturn. Plastic panels are totally berkeleying awesome and every car should use them.

DrBoost
DrBoost UltimaDork
12/9/14 7:30 p.m.

So now I gotta figure out when to post "In before the unlock!"
I can't handle that.

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