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Grtechguy
Grtechguy UltimaDork
9/1/15 11:22 a.m.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4696040,00.html

Seriously, I can't believe that got approved as an acceptable idea.

mtn
mtn MegaDork
9/1/15 11:32 a.m.

Looks more like a garden hose to me.

I definitely understand the fury over it, and I am shocked it was approved... but frankly I see nothing wrong with it. An efficient and cheap way to keep people cool. They have them at a lot of zoos and sporting events, and it seems an appropriate measure here.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/1/15 12:00 p.m.
mtn wrote: Looks more like a garden hose to me. I definitely understand the fury over it, and I am shocked it was approved... but frankly I see nothing wrong with it. An efficient and cheap way to keep people cool. They have them at a lot of zoos and sporting events, and it seems an appropriate measure here.

Technically a great idea for sure, but not an appropriate measure there...

KyAllroad
KyAllroad SuperDork
9/1/15 12:08 p.m.

Same rule as real estate. "Location, location, location."

Well meaning to be sure but really poorly thought out.

skierd
skierd SuperDork
9/1/15 12:15 p.m.

It's kinda funny in a dark dark humor sort of way.

Kinda how 70 years ago everyone who wasn't a Nazi or benefitted from them wanted to get as far away from Germany as possible, but today it's the beacon of hope in Europe for a new life for millions of refugees.

fritzsch
fritzsch Dork
9/1/15 12:17 p.m.

"I told her: 'With all due respect it reminds me of the gas chambers,'"

Maybe the misters were not the best idea, but I think the point of Auschwitz is to be reminded of gas chambers.

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
9/1/15 12:18 p.m.

It is a bit silly though. The "shower" part of the chambers was the room, not the water coming out of something part. Perhaps the article is misleading (shocking I know, but it does happen...really). Maybe they were more taken back by the "gas like" appearance of the mist?

If they had the sprayers in a room they had to go into, I can see that would be really bad.

Can you take a train to get there?

Or a bus?

What if there was a gas station near by? A gas fired grill? A UPS delivery van, "What can Brown (brown shirts) do for you?" Something not related to the camp that has a triangle or square on it (both symbols used to categorize "less desirableness") etc....

Seems like they are being a wee bit to sensitive about this one.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
9/1/15 12:21 p.m.

One does not go to Auschwitz to feel comfortable.

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
9/1/15 12:38 p.m.

Interesting point surrounding this:

I was watching a history show, and they made the comment that one of the reasons they developed the camp system was because:

"it was becoming difficult to shoot so many people"

That's a pretty powerful statement / concept right there.

The Hoff
The Hoff SuperDork
9/1/15 12:42 p.m.

I would hardly call those "showers". Those are misters and are always called misters. I think that article was stretching reality to make headlines.

NOHOME
NOHOME UberDork
9/1/15 3:27 p.m.

This gives you an idea of how many people roam the earth looking for insults where none were meant in the first place. Modern media make a living at it. Same general group invented political correctness. Also known as shiny happy people.

On a hot day, would the same group have complained that they were being left to "Bake in an oven" if the cooling mist option were not there to bitch about?

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Associate Editor
9/1/15 3:42 p.m.

Uh, I'm pretty sure this is actually offensive.

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
9/1/15 3:46 p.m.
Tom Suddard wrote: Uh, I'm pretty sure this isreali offensive.

fixed it to keep it offensive, but make it punny.

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
9/1/15 4:00 p.m.
Tom Suddard wrote: Uh, I'm pretty sure this is actually offensive.

Ehhhhhh.... really?

As far as I can see, no where does it say that is a shower. No one every takes a shower with something like that. Almost any one who would see that would call it a "mister".

The only "shower" is in the minds of the people thinking that. Besides, there is a very "wagon" looking thing right next to them:

(sorry about the horrific picture)

Gary
Gary Dork
9/1/15 4:46 p.m.

Not appropriate. Definitely poor taste and judgement whatever you try to disguise them as. Whoever is responsible should be sacked, even if it is 70 years later and Chermany is a different place now.

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
9/1/15 4:47 p.m.

The only thing they did wrong was that they didn't make it realistic enough. It looks like a theme park, complete with concession stands, crowd organizing stantions, and misters to make visitors more comfortable.

It's Auschwitz, not berkeleying DisneyWorld.

They gonna take down the barbed wire and guard posts on the walls?

Why would you go to Auschwitz and expect to feel comfortable?

They could have pushed a bunch of people into a room, slammed the steel doors shut, and THEN turned on the misters. Many museums would have.

It's a horrible place. Don't gloss it over. Remember.

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
9/1/15 4:52 p.m.

I wonder if the people (probably just one person out of 100's of thousands... yes, that happens in the media also) who are complaining are survivors who lived through what is a horrific absurdity of humanity who at some point may have thought of a slice of bread as the definition of nirvana. Or is it their relatives and descendants who have lived a life of comparatively absolute luxury, who may think not having texting access on their "hand computer" is the manifestation of hell on earth?

I just think that if a survivor (not that many left) heard that complaint, the response would be something along the lines of "you want to hear offensive? let me tell you about..." (two hour lecture of horror).

(Just checked the article again, says the young visitors liked them, the older ones where "offended", I still find it unlikely they are survivors though)

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/1/15 5:00 p.m.

If not offensive even I can see how it's not terribly appropriate. After hearing the stories my uncle had about liberating one of the camps and seeing how it screwed him up pretty much the rest of his life I agree with SVreX that being uncomfortable should be part of the visit though I can see wanting a shower after a long train ride.

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
9/1/15 5:00 p.m.

Offensive??? Seriously??

Somebody wants to complain about misters in a place where they made lampshades out of grandmothers?

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
9/1/15 5:36 p.m.

I don't really see how it's offensive/inappropriate or any other synonym you prefer. Maybe I'm heartless.

Maybe they are located at every bar/restaurant in this state because of our summers so it seems like a normal way to combat the heat.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo MegaDork
9/1/15 6:09 p.m.

Offensive? No. Terrible idea? Yes.

daeman
daeman Reader
9/1/15 6:25 p.m.

What's offensive is people visiting the site of past atrocities and wandering around taking holiday snaps like its some kind of harmless tourist attraction....

Making people more comfortable while they do it only adds to the root problem, it isn't offensive in its own right, its offensive because the whole Auschwitz tourism thing is offensive.

I dare say the vast majority of tourists to Auschwitz aren't there due to personal connection but more so morbid curiosity and fascination .

Meanwhile the world health organisation needs to start a concrete capsule prescriptiin program, whereby anyone who is showing signs of being unnecessarily outraged or offended is prescribed capsules full of cement powder untill such time as the harden the berkeley up.

codrus
codrus GRM+ Memberand Dork
9/2/15 1:03 a.m.
daeman wrote: I dare say the vast majority of tourists to Auschwitz aren't there due to personal connection but more so morbid curiosity and fascination .

So what? It's not only the people with a personal connection who need to remember and know that this kind of thing actually happened in the real world.

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/2/15 5:07 a.m.

Sometimes tasteless and offensive get confused but neither really have a place in something like this. At least they didn't notice the temporary tattoos in the gift shop.

Marjorie Suddard
Marjorie Suddard General Manager
9/2/15 9:44 a.m.

Ah, Internet, why do you never notice the unsubtle irony that is you getting offended that someone was offended?

Margie

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