Election results

SVreX wrote:

poopshovel wrote: 1. Damn, I wish I had 20+ employees so I could lay off every mother berkeleyer with an Obama sticker on their car.

Even in GA, that would wind you up in jail. If you don't get the !@#$ beat out of you first. You're better than a comment like that, Poopy.

Point taken, though I'm obviously not "better" than a comment like that. I could've worded it a little better. It was reactionary; just the immediate thought that entered my head when the alarm clock told me "Obama wins" this morning.

The point is that IF I had a bunch of employees, and was forced to lay people off due to increased income, corporate, AND payroll taxes, (on top of our current economic situation,) the people who voted for all of these would be the first to go. Didn't realize that was illegal. My bad.

I'm tired, and have spent entirely too much time on the int3rwebz today. I'd better go make some money. Those "Earned Income Credit" checks for the lazy and fiscally retarded aren't going to pay for themselves!

racerdave600 wrote: Maybe I shouldn't respond to this, but here goes. First off, I didn't vote Obama as I think there are far too many unknowns for the man to be president. He may be the best thing ever, but does anyone truly know much about him. Most of it was covered up, and what record there is of his voting in no way corresponds to what he said during his campaign. And worse yet, although he didn't get a super majority, its close enough that he can pretty much run through whatever he wants, including constitutional changes. And with the current supreme court, there's not much chance of an override there either. All the checks and balances are pretty much non-existent at this moment. I would feel much better about this if congress was more evenly balanced.

As I understand, although the Dems gained seats in both houses, they actually hold fewer seats than they did in 1994, when Clinton entered office. The difference is, Obama was such an energizing force, that many of them will likely feel beholden to him for their offices, and be more amenable to follow directions he lays out.

I thought the supreme court was currently more right leaning than left. Am i wrong about this?

GlennS wrote: I thought the supreme court was currently more right leaning than left. Am i wrong about this?

Federal or Califormia?

Salanis wrote:

racerdave600 wrote: Maybe I shouldn't respond to this, but here goes. First off, I didn't vote Obama as I think there are far too many unknowns for the man to be president. He may be the best thing ever, but does anyone truly know much about him. Most of it was covered up, and what record there is of his voting in no way corresponds to what he said during his campaign. And worse yet, although he didn't get a super majority, its close enough that he can pretty much run through whatever he wants, including constitutional changes. And with the current supreme court, there's not much chance of an override there either. All the checks and balances are pretty much non-existent at this moment. I would feel much better about this if congress was more evenly balanced.

As I understand, although the Dems gained seats in both houses, they actually hold fewer seats than they did in 1994, when Clinton entered office. The difference is, Obama was such an energizing force, that many of them will likely feel beholden to him for their offices, and be more amenable to follow directions he lays out.

Good point(s), Salanis...

Maybe I'm hoping against hope, but a lot of Democrat Congressionals have to realize their gains are not because of an out-and-out endorsement of their platform.

People voted against Republicans, almost regardless of the opposition. That's how badly the R's have managed their "brand" over the last eight years.

Obama gave a great acceptance speech, but it's worth noting that he was already back-tracking against his campaign rhetoric. He knows he can only find success by governing from the middle and needs much more support and acceptance from independents than from his hard-core base.

Obama might make a positive difference, but he has to be strong enough to influence the likes of Pelosi and Reid and keep them from railroading legislation the country simply cannot afford, now or ever. If he cannot, how can he hope to stand-up to the likes of Putin, Kim Jong Il (or his clone), Ahmedinijhad (sp?), Chavez and a host of others?

How does that old curse go - "May your children live in interesting times."?

SupraWes wrote: LOL didn't we pass something for a high speed train here in FL about 10 years ago? I don't see no train yet or even ground broken.

Hey, I remember that! They did build something. If you go out to the old Ti-Co airport (I think it's called Space Coast Regional now) and drive in right off of US1 hang a right at the first intersection passed the railroad tracks, there's a fence to your left covering a concrete pad with the "rail" on it. Across the street is the building that used to be the main office for the project. It was overgrown and abandoned 5 years ago when I left Florida. The R/C airplane runway right next to it was well kept up though!

poopshovel wrote:

NYG95GA wrote: Dolemite.

Pooklo? A couple of quick thoughts: 1. Damn, I wish I had 20+ employees so I could lay off every mother berkeleyer with an Obama sticker on their car. 2. No more berkeleying handouts from me. Not for your church, not for your school, not for your greasy goddamned granny with holes in her panties.

You know, a while back, the above poster made a crack about folks like me in reference to the type of car I bought and how he would just just like to beat me up or some such without bothering to meet me first to find out if I really annoy him or anything.

At that point I called him on it and to his credit, he more or less apologized.

Apparently that was just b/s.

I see from his comments here and from the delightful avatar that this individual revels in the anonymity of the internet and making ridiculous statements such as these and further, figures that posting such blatantly sick, racist crap such as this just demonstrates what an edgy in-your-face kind of guy he is.

Well, I am sick of it. And what I am even more sick of is that the rest of you, including the staff of this wonderful magazine either just go along with it; egg this person on or join in the fun. If this kind of garbage is how you (poopshovel) and the rest of you view Obama and the people (like me) who voted for him, then I am embarrassed to say that I actually read the same magazine as you all do.

Personally, if it were my magazine (and therefore my website) I would be personally insulted that anyone was posting this sort of vile hateful crap on it and then hiding behind some sort of moronic argument that somehow they are just "having fun" or "being sarcastic" or worse "expressing their first amendment rights."

You see, there are lines that can be crossed with satire. There are, believe it or not, limits beyond which one leaves the realm of satire and enters the realm of invective.

Well, I am way past offended. I am sick of it. But before I exercise my right to stop reading offensive material I am going to exercise my right to point out that the person writing is wrong. It is not funny. It IS rascist.

I encourage everyone who is offended to send the Suddards a message and cancel their subscriptions. If they tolerate rascism on their boards, if they tolerate their posters threatening their subscribers, then what else will be tolerated and where else will it be tolerated?

Uh actually JohnSSC I don't really read anything "racist" about what he is saying. I can introduce you to folks of just about any ethnicity that would fit the descriptions that he presented.

Now then this is not to say I agree with what he said, it did give me a laugh though. Most of the people around here have a fairly thick skin especially when it comes to this politics BS.

Also most of the folks I know that voted for Obama aren't black, they were white, as I'm sure a good portion of those 20 people in post would have been as well. Or are you trying to say that if you vote for the "black" guy then you get an automatic "black" status and anything said to you about your vote is racist?

Personally I think all of this race stuff is a bunch of crap, especially those that love to toss out the race card every chance they can when its not even being brought up. Haven't we learned anything from South Park? I swear that show more than anywhere else points out how ridiculous all this "race" garbage is. Everyone is always trying to point out how "special" they are because they are this or that or the other thing and demand to have "equal rights", which in the end means they want "special" rights.
Remember its: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness..." Its not "All men are created differently; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain rights for some and different rights for others..."

Now then if you want to cancel your subscription to the magazine because you don't agree with someone that reads it, I might suggest you cancel your subscriptions to every form of media known to man.

Am I offended by what he said? Nope not in the slightest, he said it in the heat of the moment, has already somewhat apologized for what he said and I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Now then am I writing all of this to defend Poopy and his actions? No. Am I writing this to change you mind? No. So why am I writing this? Well its more than likely because I'm just bored and avoiding getting back to work. However more than likely its because I am tired of people being so thin skinned about every thing that someone else says they take it as an outright assault and demand retribution. This is a major problem with people in this day and age, they cannot take the slightest bit of negativity aim (directly or perceived) at them and they go crying to momma.

We try to stay out of the political threads as best as possible. It's a lot like trying to tell a monkey to stop throwing poo. He'll keep doing it until he runs out, no matter what you say.

That said, we try to keep things civil and frankly, Matt has crossed the line with that avatar, so I'd like him to remove it and apologize for his comments.

Per

John, I am offended. I'm offended that you would hide behind your own internet anonymity and issue thinly veiled accusations of racism at us. I'm offended that you would take advantage of our own forum to try to damage our business and our reputation. Most of all, I'm offended that you willingly participated in a political discussion on the internet, then acted like you never expected a disagreeable word. What you don't seem to be able to realize is that in the world of the internet, this is a pretty damn well-behaved community. You were "threatened"? Seriously, you actually thought someone was going to come harm you?

I will be happy to cancel your subscription.

As for the rest of you, it's getting old. Election's over. Country's messed up. We've got work to do. Shut up and let's get to it.

Margie

poopshovel wrote: Pooklo?

Man, that just made my day.

Per Schroeder wrote: It's a lot like trying to tell a monkey to stop throwing poo. He'll keep doing it until he runs out, no matter what you say.

Oh my god this has to be the best thing EVER said on this board I love it

JohnSSC... his avatar is racist and I agree with you. His avatar condones nazi's is offensive and if I happened to view it while at work I could be fired on the spot for offending someone else.

I brought this point up in another thread but was shouted down..

Beyond what Per and Margie said, if you think a post is over the line, there's always that little "report" button on every post. Works much better, and is much faster, than yelling over the internet. If you REALLY want to complain, there's always the "contact" link down at the bottom of every page. Feel free to send your beef to me.

Tim Baxter wrote: Feel free to send your beef to me. I'll even read it.

How do you read beef?

Per Schroeder wrote: We try to stay out of the political threads as best as possible. It's a lot like trying to tell a monkey to stop throwing poo. He'll keep doing it until he runs out, no matter what you say. Per

Man, why did I have to run out of poo now?

ignorant wrote:

Tim Baxter wrote: Feel free to send your beef to me. I'll even read it.

How do you read beef?

It gets kinda hard when there is a good layer of BBQ sauce on there

rebelgtp wrote:

ignorant wrote:

Tim Baxter wrote: Feel free to send your beef to me. I'll even read it.

How do you read beef?

It gets kinda hard when there is a good layer of BBQ sauce on there

like meat braille?

ignorant wrote:

rebelgtp wrote:

ignorant wrote:

Tim Baxter wrote: Feel free to send your beef to me. I'll even read it.

How do you read beef?

It gets kinda hard when there is a good layer of BBQ sauce on there

like meat braille?

I swear I tried to come up with a response that could not be taken in the wrong way but I just couldn't do it

Hmmm maybe something about grill lines?

That's it... I ain't readin' any of your emails.

Just kidding, you know I will.

mmmmm....gaaaaahhh.....meat braille...bumpy goodness........

Dude, you need some sleep.

dang, waaaaay tooo many people with their panties in a bunch on both sides of this fence.

Chill, go wrench on a car, do something else.

The election is over, we have what we have, good or bad remains to be seen.

It seems quite a few people here have misplaced their sense of humor. I suggest you use your spare time to go find it instead of whining on the internet.

I dont necessarily agree with everything said (or images displayed) here, but I can sit back and laugh at them rather than get in a twist. Life is short, noone agrees, so be it.

I didn't "hide" behind anything. I immediately emailed you as you well know Margie and discussed the issue in detail.

However you wanted to address my post is fine but I did send an email with my concern as well and included my name, etc.

There is a difference between what I would characterize as disagreeable words and words/pictures that are racist in nature and in my opinion I felt that line had been crossed.

Marjorie Suddard wrote: John, I am offended. I'm offended that you would hide behind your own internet anonymity and issue thinly veiled accusations of racism at us. I'm offended that you would take advantage of our own forum to try to damage our business and our reputation. Most of all, I'm offended that you willingly participated in a political discussion on the internet, then acted like you never expected a disagreeable word. What you don't seem to be able to realize is that in the world of the internet, this is a pretty damn well-behaved community. You were "threatened"? Seriously, you actually thought someone was going to come harm you? I will be happy to cancel your subscription. As for the rest of you, it's getting old. Election's over. Country's messed up. We've got work to do. Shut up and let's get to it. Margie

Amen. Rock on, Margie.

The baseless hate speech that has been spewed throughout this election (and that will inevitably continue to spew forth) seems way out of place in this good-natured, different-from-all-the-others web board.

This place is my refuge from internet genital-waving.