I live in western North Carolina and there are a lot of these people. Saw that video when it was first posted. I just hope they don't show up at my house when the arborist cuts down a few of our trees.
I wonder how they fair after an ice storm or high wind storm around here?
Anyone else just want to show up to one of their meetings and drown them all out with a chainsaw?
Maybe seeing people as messed up as that just make me want to watch the world burn...
mndsm wrote: OT- I had a woman at work that was all full of the holy spirit. She however didn't believe in dinosaurs. I said to her "So let me get this straight. You believe in some ethereal spaceman that no one can prove ever existed, whose only evidence of ever having been alive is a book written thousands of years ago and translated through innumerable dead languages that would basically render it as accurate as the worlds WORST game of telephone, but you don't believe in the existence of something they have the SKELETON of 15 minutes from here?" I made it a point to argue religion with her after that one. Not that I fault anyone that chooses to believe- I find fault in the people that believe so blindly they're not willing to listen to any other possibilities in life. She was a fun one.
I've meet people like that ... they really believe that the dinosaur bones were put there by God to confuse us ... as far as they're concerned the world is no more than 3 - 5 thousand yrs old
I had to shut the video off. The screeching/wailing eulogy for a tree was more than I could take.
That said, for all the problems the world has, some of you guys want to come flying off the handle and go all pitchforks and chainsaws over some folks who care about one specific thing to an absurd degree and are just annoying and misguided in their attempts to be useful?
There are a lot of things that make me angry in the world. I don't want to hang out with them, but they don't make my Top Ten E36 M3 List...
ransom wrote: That said, for all the problems the world has, some of you guys want to come flying off the handle and go all pitchforks and chainsaws over some folks who care about one specific thing to an absurd degree and are just annoying and misguided in their attempts to be useful?
Yeah because we all never wail, and gnash, and rend over the decline of manual transmissions and rise in curb weights.
wbjones wrote: I've meet people like that ... they really believe that the dinosaur bones were put there by God to confuse us ... as far as they're concerned the world is no more than 3 - 5 thousand yrs old
I used to mess with one of those "by the book" belivers. He was all about how god would know everything about us from the moment we were conceived till the time we died and already knew if we were going to heaven or hell... and then whenever anything bad happened would state that "god is testing me"
Why would he test you? he already knows everything about you.
He never liked that question.
I have no problems with religion. I just do not like it when people make stupid statements about it
NSFW for language:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DX3lZ8peBU
Gets good at 4:00.
Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ELJt0vUBi4
Part 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz8F6v5NB8I
My favorite takeaway: "When you buy lumber, you're effectively ordering more trees." and "Trees are plants. Like carrots and cabbages." Lol.
Obviously, it's sad that the whack jobs of any group get all the attention, but it also sucks that the environmental movement HAS be hijacked by political groups.
ransom wrote: I had to shut the video off. The screeching/wailing eulogy for a tree was more than I could take.
I had to shut it off too. For every second of viewing, I could feel my IQ dropping. I can't afford to lose any more points...
Bjorn Lomborg, is public enemy #1 amoung enviromentalists, His book "The Skeptical Enviromentalist" pissed them off more than the sight of a Ford Excursion carrying only one person.
BERKLEYING ROFL!!!!!!!!
Look, we’re on borrowed time. It’s estimated that we’ll have our next mass extinction event in around 70 million years but it could happen tomorrow.
What we need to do is become independent of the planet as quickly as possible. The best thing we could possibly do for trees and anything else is to strategically sacrifice some to facilitate exoplanet colonization.
Of course, this isn’t a license to be gluttonous but if we can efficiently utilize resources to quickly gain the needed capability, we need to do it.
Simply stated, I don’t ever see an accounting of the upside. It’s always, here’s your carbon footprint, here’s your GHG emissions, here’s your blah, blah, blah. Agreed, and here’s the contribution I made to humanity as a result of consuming those resources.
Consuming a megawatt so people can watch Honey BooBoo isn’t the same as consuming a megawatt to conduct medical research.
In reply to RX Reven': If you are serious, let me point out the irony of you driving a rotary powered car.....if joking, 
They just need some good wood and/ or Goodwood... but not the tree kind
Hi Yamaha,
But wait, it gets worse…my commute is 43 miles each way.
Now, I car pool with one or two other people so my average seat miles per gallon is ~54.
Also, it takes a lot of energy to produce a car and I got 283,000 miles out of my last car (87 RX-7 may she rest in peace).
So, I realize that I could do better but I also think that a significant percent of Prius drivers aren’t doing any better when you take everything into consideration.
Right- but the Prius drivers "did something to help the planet" which somehow puts them on another level. Around here at least.
When in reality they could utilize public transportation and make their carbon footprint, or whatever yard stick they use this week, even smaller. But riding a bus is taboo...
RX Reven' wrote: Hi Yamaha, But wait, it gets worse…my commute is 43 miles each way. Now, I car pool with one or two other people so my average seat miles per gallon is ~54. Also, it takes a lot of energy to produce a car and I got 283,000 miles out of my last car (87 RX-7 may she rest in peace). So, I realize that I could do better but I also think that a significant percent of Prius drivers aren’t doing any better when you take everything into consideration.
Causeheads. They pick a world threatening issue and stick with it...for about a week.
There is a reason I don't run catalysts......it is called feeding the trees and grass.
Actually most of the function of a catalyst is to creates more plant food, CO2.
Those people in the video are simply extremists. Extremists are dangerous because their thoughts and many times their actions are irrational.
There is nothing wrong with being an environmentalist. Knowing how to manage the resources we have in the best way possible while doing the least long term damage isn't radical, or left wing, it is just smart.
Teddy Roosevelt was a great environmentalist. I don't think anybody would call him a hippy.
The folks in the video are on the lunatic fringe.
In reply to Brett_Murphy:
This is why I agree with poopshovel's video links.......I mean, its pretty bad to be called idiots by a cofounder of Greenpeace. As usual with everything, only the two extreme sides are heard......and those who actually are probably right are never heard. Its not just the environmentalist movement, its how the GMO/monsanto, rights arguments, occupy, and such are. It is always just the extremes.
beans wrote: Hipster should all die in fiery pits filled with sharp spikes. Especially those that shop exclusively at Whole Foods and the like because it's "organic maaaaan." You want organic? Go shoot a berkeleying deer/rabbit/squirrel/anything that moves, butcher it, and cook it over a fire. Bonus, it's tasty. I just tell people I believe in Ancient Aliens. Keeps them off my back with the religion thing. They're crazier than I am.
I was gonna say "you want to kill them for poor fashion and food choices? How does any of the affect you?" But then I realized I wanted to do the same to Miranda lambet and all the rest of the Nashdrivlle fans out there. berkeley I'm a hypocrit.
Joey
Beer Baron wrote:ransom wrote: That said, for all the problems the world has, some of you guys want to come flying off the handle and go all pitchforks and chainsaws over some folks who care about one specific thing to an absurd degree and are just annoying and misguided in their attempts to be useful?Yeah because we all never wail, and gnash, and rend over the decline of manual transmissions and rise in curb weights.
Ain't this the truth. I've got friends that are pretty tired of hearing me bitch about car weights.
Joey
Recently got a animal rights activist riled up suggesting that cats need to be killed in New Zealand because they are destroying the environment and driving native bird species to extinction. Was a funny, but true, troll.
That and explaining to them that there is no scientific evidence that GMO foods are harmful and that GM potatos ended the disease that caused the irish potato famine causing a massive increase of yield per space used which, applied to other foods, could end world hunger and save the environment due to less farm space being needed. Then I imply that they are as anti-science as creationists. Every time one of they whine about GM foods not being labeled I accuse them of trying to create further mistrust in science.
Good arguments to make any unreasonable environmentalist or ultra-left explode. Double plus good if they are also a fan of "eastern" or "alternative" remedies and you can imply they are racist because they think that asians are magic.
There was a great Vice video recently about a guy who hunts wild dogs in Austrlia, a cross-breed between domesticated dogs and dingos, that are destroying the environment there. The amount of lunatic butthurt at this man was amazing.
Teddy Roosevelt was a great environmentalist.
I had one of these people telling me how horrible he was because he killed animals.
These people really don't care about the environment at all.
I have a hard time understanding their angst about genetically altered foods ... mankind has been doing this with in the ground food AND with walking around food for as long as we've been around ... just now it's being done in a laboratory as opposed to selective breeding and selective pollination ...
paranoid_android74 wrote: When in reality they could utilize public transportation and make their carbon footprint, or whatever yard stick they use this week, even smaller. But riding a bus is taboo...
keep in mind that public transportation isn't available out here in the sticks ... we all don't live in NYC 
Some of you guys are as much a caricature of "I hate environmentalists" as the people posted in the original post are caricatures of environmentalists...
Joey
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