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novaderrik
novaderrik UberDork
6/22/13 9:49 a.m.
joey48442 wrote: Some of you guys are as much a caricature of "I hate environmentalists" as the people posted in the original post are caricatures of environmentalists... Joey

hipster...

novaderrik
novaderrik UberDork
6/22/13 9:56 a.m.
wbjones wrote:
paranoid_android74 wrote: When in reality they could utilize public transportation and make their carbon footprint, or whatever yard stick they use this week, even smaller. But riding a bus is taboo...
keep in mind that public transportation isn't available out here in the sticks ... we all don't live in NYC

one of my uncles just moved from an inner ring suburb of Minneapolis to an outer ring suburb about a year ago.. he was bitching about the lack of public transportation to take him where he wants to go... he bought a Nissan Leaf that he uses to drive to either work- which is a 25 mile drive- or to a light rail station- which is a 20 mile drive- so he can ride the train to work.. he has a yearly pass of some sort to park in the parking ramp right across the street from work and he takes advantage of the people of Minneapolis by charging his car at the free electric car chargers they have installed, but he likes taking the train to "remind himself about the environment"- his words, not mine..

this is the same guy that doesn't like pedaling his bike out on the country roads around his new town because he's scared of farm dogs for some reason, so he'll load his bike into (or onto??) his leaf to drive it into the cities so he can ride his bike there where it's more "civilized" and he can use his gps thingie to post up where he rode on his facebook page for everyone to see..

JoeyM
JoeyM MegaDork
6/22/13 10:02 a.m.
yamaha wrote:
Bjorn Lomborg, is public enemy #1 amoung enviromentalists, His book "The Skeptical Enviromentalist" pissed them off more than the sight of a Ford Excursion carrying only one person.
BERKLEYING ROFL!!!!!!!!

I haven't read Bjorn's book, but I did watch the movie based on him and his book:
http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/Cool-It/70150999
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/cool_it/

It is more middle-of-the-road than you'd think from that penn and teller clip

paranoid_android74
paranoid_android74 Reader
6/22/13 12:02 p.m.

You are right. I was thinking of where I live here in Michigan. We have a great public transportation system. I realize its not like that everywhere.

wbjones wrote:
paranoid_android74 wrote: When in reality they could utilize public transportation and make their carbon footprint, or whatever yard stick they use this week, even smaller. But riding a bus is taboo...
keep in mind that public transportation isn't available out here in the sticks ... we all don't live in NYC
wbjones
wbjones PowerDork
6/22/13 2:41 p.m.

in the city they have bus service ... not sure how inclusive the routes or how often they run ... out here in the sticks I think the buses run maybe 3 - 4 times a day .. and even then it's only on the main highway ... many folk live as much as 15-20 miles from a bus stop ...

even the larger cities in NC don't cover the 'burbs and beyond very well ...if at all

Anti-stance
Anti-stance UltraDork
6/22/13 3:44 p.m.

Much like others said:

People in the OP video are crazy and extremists in anything are crazy. Eviromentalist, religion, politics, etc.

JoeyM
JoeyM MegaDork
6/22/13 3:58 p.m.
Anti-stance wrote: Much like others said: People in the OP video are crazy and extremists in anything are crazy. Eviromentalist, religion, politics, etc.

....engine swaps

z31maniac
z31maniac PowerDork
6/22/13 4:17 p.m.
wbjones wrote: I have a hard time understanding their angst about genetically altered foods ... mankind has been doing this with in the ground food AND with walking around food for as long as we've been around ... just now it's being done in a laboratory as opposed to selective breeding and selective pollination ...

You see nothing wrong with eating food that has to be grown and handled with hazmat suits?

Interesting

paranoid_android74
paranoid_android74 Reader
6/22/13 5:54 p.m.

Yeah, it seems like there is a big difference between cross breeding plants and altering their DNA.

z31maniac wrote:
wbjones wrote: I have a hard time understanding their angst about genetically altered foods ... mankind has been doing this with in the ground food AND with walking around food for as long as we've been around ... just now it's being done in a laboratory as opposed to selective breeding and selective pollination ...
You see nothing wrong with eating food that has to be grown and handled with hazmat suits? Interesting
JoeyM
JoeyM MegaDork
6/22/13 6:12 p.m.
paranoid_android74 wrote: Yeah, it seems like there is a big difference between cross breeding plants and altering their DNA.

You can mess things up either way. lenape potato

wbjones
wbjones PowerDork
6/22/13 6:47 p.m.

my understanding of the hazmat suits would be to ensure they don't introduce any stray "crap" ... kinda like working in a clean room ... but I've been wrong before

yamaha
yamaha UberDork
6/22/13 6:57 p.m.

In reply to z31maniac: We don't have to wear hazmat suits.....and I eat soybeans straight out of the combine. I am unamused by your misguided comment.

WB, that is exactly why it is done that way in the labs. Its a clean room.....just like the engine building for the GTR.

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