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z31maniac
z31maniac SuperDork
7/22/11 9:17 a.m.

One story mentioned the mangled remains of a car out front.

Anyone that can read the local papers? Not much news yet.

z31maniac
z31maniac SuperDork
7/22/11 9:19 a.m.

Update at 10:14 a.m. ET: Although the source of the blast is unclear, Al-Jazeera TV notes that Norwegian prosecutors on Tuesday filed a terrorism charge against Mullah Krekar, founder of the Kurdish Islamist group Ansar al-Islam. Mullah Krekar is accused of threatening a former minister, Erna Solberg, with death, Al-Jazeera says.

cwh
cwh SuperDork
7/22/11 9:24 a.m.

Hard to fathom terrorism in Norway.

z31maniac
z31maniac SuperDork
7/22/11 9:27 a.m.

From a Norwegian member on R3V: Happened about an hour ago, still not sure of the cause. Many injuries.

cwh
cwh SuperDork
7/22/11 9:32 a.m.

CNN has pics- looks pretty bad.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/22/11 9:33 a.m.

I still find it amazing that we have had so few of these incidents here in the US.

alfadriver
alfadriver SuperDork
7/22/11 9:35 a.m.

In reply to cwh:

And CNN is reporting a second blast.

z31maniac
z31maniac SuperDork
7/22/11 9:36 a.m.
mad_machine wrote: I still find it amazing that we have had so few of these incidents here in the US.

Thats because most terrorists aren't the evil genius, overly educated minions of Satan that the media portrays them as. The vast majority are pathetically stupid.

z31maniac
z31maniac SuperDork
7/22/11 9:44 a.m.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/22/11 10:54 a.m.

Not good.

jrw1621
jrw1621 SuperDork
7/22/11 11:05 a.m.

My sister in law (wife's sister) is 1 year into a 3 year assignment to Stavanger, Norway. Her husband is US Airforce working at a large NATO complex. They are about a 7 hr drive from Oslo.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/22/11 11:57 a.m.

so.. file a terroism charge and get bombed? that is a hell of a defense

z31maniac
z31maniac SuperDork
7/22/11 12:03 p.m.

Now there are reports of a man firing into a youth camp, that the PM had been due to attend.

oldsaw
oldsaw SuperDork
7/22/11 1:56 p.m.

Reports indicate the toll is rising; 7 dead in Oslo and as many as 25 dead (maybe more) at the youth camp shooting:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_NORWAY_EXPLOSION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-07-22-13-34-32

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/22/11 2:03 p.m.

Bad to worse. Why would somebody terrorize Norway?

pilotbraden
pilotbraden HalfDork
7/22/11 2:05 p.m.

Are the Quislings suspects?

DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade HalfDork
7/22/11 2:10 p.m.

I'm trying to figure out why someone would terrorise Norway as well. They're about as inoffensive as you can get without being totally spineless. I mean that in a good way, too.

(On a national level, I imagine there's some jerks in Norway...)

z31maniac
z31maniac SuperDork
7/22/11 2:20 p.m.

I put the suspected reason why in the second post, gentlemen.

He had threatened to kill Norwegian officials if deported, so they filed charges against him Tuesday. I guess this was the response to the charges being filed.

m4ff3w
m4ff3w GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/22/11 2:43 p.m.
z31maniac wrote: I put the suspected reason why in the second post, gentlemen. He had threatened to kill Norwegian officials if deported, so they filed charges against him Tuesday. I guess this was the response to the charges being filed.

The shooter was 6'0, blonde, and spoke common eastern dialect of Norwegian.

A Swedish friend of mine who's company is HQ-ed near the place with the blasts said tv over there is saying they believe the shooter at the island planted the bombs.

z31maniac
z31maniac SuperDork
7/22/11 2:56 p.m.
m4ff3w wrote:
z31maniac wrote: I put the suspected reason why in the second post, gentlemen. He had threatened to kill Norwegian officials if deported, so they filed charges against him Tuesday. I guess this was the response to the charges being filed.
The shooter was 6'0, blonde, and spoke common eastern dialect of Norwegian. A Swedish friend of mine who's company is HQ-ed near the place with the blasts said tv over there is saying they believe the shooter at the island planted the bombs.

I'm not sure what his hair color or language have to do with anything.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/world/europe/23oslo.html?_r=2&hp

In reality, we won't know for awhile.

carguy123
carguy123 SuperDork
7/22/11 3:49 p.m.

THEY DESERVED IT!

Just give it 2 weeks and that's what the world press will be saying. Or at least that's what they say when we get it.

There will be some kind of PC BS that condemns the country and praises the terrorist.

RexSeven
RexSeven SuperDork
7/22/11 4:35 p.m.

IF the gunman and bomber were Fundamentalist Islamists (key word: IF), then Norway would be a big target. The Norwegians have deployed special forces to Afghanistan to combat al-Qaida and a Norwegian magazine printed cartoons depicting Mohammad, which is a big no-no in Islam.

http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/07/22/7142933-why-would-terrorists-want-to-attack-norway?GT1=43001

Still, there could be another motive. For all we know, the shooter could be the Norwegian version of Jared Loughner or Timothy McVeigh.

triumph5
triumph5 SuperDork
7/22/11 4:38 p.m.
z31maniac wrote:
mad_machine wrote: I still find it amazing that we have had so few of these incidents here in the US.
Thats because most terrorists aren't the evil genius, overly educated minions of Satan that the media portrays them as. The vast majority are pathetically stupid.

But with a few very smart leaders.

m4ff3w
m4ff3w GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/22/11 7:58 p.m.
z31maniac wrote:
m4ff3w wrote:
z31maniac wrote: I put the suspected reason why in the second post, gentlemen. He had threatened to kill Norwegian officials if deported, so they filed charges against him Tuesday. I guess this was the response to the charges being filed.
The shooter was 6'0, blonde, and spoke common eastern dialect of Norwegian. A Swedish friend of mine who's company is HQ-ed near the place with the blasts said tv over there is saying they believe the shooter at the island planted the bombs.
I'm not sure what his hair color or language have to do with anything. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/world/europe/23oslo.html?_r=2&hp In reality, we won't know for awhile.

Because most wouldn't suspect an associate of Mullah Krekar to be of Nordic decent.

http://www.newsinenglish.no/2011/07/23/massacre-suspect-is-norwegian/

the website for newspaper VG identified him as Anders Behring Breivik, age 32, a self-described nationalist with no criminal record who was opposed to Islam and to a multi-cultural society. VG and Norwegian Broadcasting (NRK) reported that police were raiding the suspect’s home in west Oslo Friday night.
z31maniac
z31maniac SuperDork
7/22/11 8:16 p.m.

^Nice edit.

;)

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