Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: Like you said, it is all new music really - country is just especially awful because I hate steel and slide guitars but Taylor Swift is equally as horrifically bad. I expect a lot of talented guys get boxed out because they are ugly berkeleys. I wonder if Geddy Lee or Tom Petty could get a job if they had to start over.
as corpse models maybe.
geddy lee sucks and shouldn't be allowed to sing anyway.
I'm certain you've gotten more than your share of recommendations, but I'm going to add couple of my own. I happen to love country- er- western, music. I've elected to call it western because it won't show up on any radio station this side of Austin. I listen to soma FM, Boot Liquor. It's on iTunes and the internet. Fantastic. Or throw Hayes Carll into your Pandora mix. You'll get a fantastic array of country poets that I'm sure you've heard of. And yeah- there are good songs about pickup trucks Pickup Truck Song
BlueInGreen44 wrote: But on the flip side the last decade has been full of cool alt country/folk stuff. Drive By Truckers, Gillian Welch, Steeldrivers, Old Crow Medicine Show, to name a few. So that's cool.
which don't get any / much air time for a casual listener 
Ya know... I re-read the title this AM.
I am a terrible guitar player and stuck in the world of slow, simple riffs for what seems like an eternity. My solo walks on the minor pentatonic make Neil Young sound like speed metal. Yet... there is so much awesome stuff out there I CAN play that is so simply constructed out of the same couple chords but with just strum or timing differences when you get down to playing it that I can't understand why these new country guys have to all use the same riffs/progressions as each other. It only takes one param change to make it familiar but completely different.
So as not to threadjack... I just went and learned me my new favorite country song in about an hour. Skynard. Simple Man. Not a single pick-up or riverbank in it. Lots of arpeggio though. Us semi-beginners love those ;)
Now if only I could sing like that it wouldn't sound like "Kermit Sings the Classics".
In reply to Giant Purple Snorklewacker:
Awesome, dude! FWIW, I wasn't hating on the simplicity, or the genre. I berkeleying LOVE Merle, & Conway, and berkeleyin hell, I'm a HUGE ACDC fan (specifically the Bon Scott era) and it's not like Angus is a "shredder." (speaking ov the minor pentatonic scale)
It was more just me having a "WHO THE berkeley LISTENS TO; BUYS THIS berkeleyING FORMULAIC HORSE E36 M3!?" Freak-out..."My neighbors/people with double digit IQ's" is, apparently the answer.
I should move.
There is no magic era. Every era of radio has it share of memorable/good stuff and forgettable stuff. The Beatles were great musicians and wrote great songs. There was a lot of forgettable acts with songs on the radio at the same time. In the 70's you had Led Zeppelin on the radio with Terry Jacks. You had Chic (which I like) on the radio with Star Land Vocal Band (which I dislike). 80's radio had U2, Prince and Bruce Springsteen. It also had Bananarama, New Kids on the Block, and Warrant.
I could go decade by decade but I think you get the point. People remember the best stuff from any era. There is a lot of fluff that fades away. The bro-country formula will fade too.
SilverFleet wrote: The band at the place over the weekend was a local band that played some originals and mostly covers. For what its worth, they were solid, and pretty funny. On just about every cover song, they mashed together about 5-6 songs because they shared the same chord structure. And the drunk crowd loved it.
This thread started making me think of Pachelbel's Canon in D and this post finished it for me:
Ranting about Pachelbel and its eight freaking notes over and over again and how a lot of modern music really is Canon in D.
And his rant made me think of this sendup of Canon in D and the plight of the poor ignored cellist.
(what, you thought it was all speed metal with Knurled?)
SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: Well that's no different than the classic rock stations saying Metallica and Pearl Jam are classic rock.
Well, at least Metallica stuff is about 30 years old... that would be like listening to The Beach Boys and late Chuck Berry in the 90s. Like the "oldies" station liked to play when I listened to it every day at the bike shop I worked at in the early 90s as a high schooler.
NB: The "contemporary rock" station here has a mandatory hair metal hour every Wednesday at 1pm (YAY) and they often play rock from the 60s if you count Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath as rock
petegossett wrote: YouTube primarily, or just like pre-internet - through friends and other musicians...including here on GRM. I've got a playlist about 20-hours long of mostly instrumental jazz/prog/jazz-prog-metal-ish stuff that gets me through most workdays.
Link plz. I am kid of fed up with the 80% talk radio format that have in my city and we have a big pipe at work. I've been threatening to connect the headphone jack on my computer to the shop radio's input, having useful playlists to start with would maybe get me to get off my butt and actually do it.
Bonus: After hours, I can play racing videos and have the audio come out on the shop system 
In reply to Knurled:
Well then, in no particular order:
Hiromi, The Trio Project - Desire
Animals as Leaders - The Joy of Motion
Scale the Summit - The Migration
And for something with vocals: MoeTar - Regression to the Mean
No guarantees you'll be able to stomach any of them! 
Type Q wrote: There is no magic era. Every era of radio has it share of memorable/good stuff and forgettable stuff. The Beatles were great musicians and wrote great songs. There was a lot of forgettable acts with songs on the radio at the same time. In the 70's you had Led Zeppelin on the radio with Terry Jacks. You had Chic (which I like) on the radio with Star Land Vocal Band (which I dislike). 80's radio had U2, Prince and Bruce Springsteen. It also had Bananarama, New Kids on the Block, and Warrant. I could go decade by decade but I think you get the point. People remember the best stuff from any era. There is a lot of fluff that fades away. The bro-country formula will fade too.
...but the best stuff of this era isn't really in the zeitgeist anymore. Rock radio is all but gone from the dial and it's gone from mainstream consciousness. Pop took over in a BIG way. Sure, Beck's "Morning Phase" got the best album Grammy (deservedly so, it's brilliant), but it didn't get played on the radio even 5% as much as the stuff from earlier in his career--granted he's a "legacy artist" now.
Younger bands barely even get a shot on the radio. Stuff that gets 1 million+ hits on youtube gets zero radio play.
That said, radio's reach is far less than it used to be. Youtube and streaming now dictate the time.
Again, I'll say--I'm not all about "it was so much better back in the day", because there's so much excellent stuff out there. It's just that it's much, much less of a part of the zeitgeist. Kids would rather take selfies and watch 7 second video clips than listen to an album.
SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote:wbjones wrote:Well that's no different than the classic rock stations saying Metallica and Pearl Jam are classic rock.SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: Modern country sucks, it's all pop country. I grew up with 80's and 90's country. It could be worse though.I grew up on 50's and 60's country … what really sucks is country gold stations are starting to consider George Strait to be country gold … blechhttp://youtu.be/7-NOZU2iPA8
(quoted from a few pages back, sorry if it's already been covered)
bands that have been around for over 30 years (Metallica) and almost 25 years (Pearl Jam) that each had -and continue to have- a HUGE influence on the music that came after them don't qualify as "classic"?
not to me … there's a certain era that IS the golden oldies … doesn't include bands like that … regardless of their influence down the road (for me it's 50's and 60's rock and roll)
same for country …. "country gold" is the 40's - 60's … with a smattering of 70's thrown in …
Knurled wrote:SilverFleet wrote: The band at the place over the weekend was a local band that played some originals and mostly covers. For what its worth, they were solid, and pretty funny. On just about every cover song, they mashed together about 5-6 songs because they shared the same chord structure. And the drunk crowd loved it.This thread started making me think of Pachelbel's Canon in D and this post finished it for me: Ranting about Pachelbel and its eight freaking notes over and over again and how a lot of modern music really is Canon in D. And his rant made me think of this sendup of Canon in D and the plight of the poor ignored cellist. (what, you thought it was all speed metal with Knurled?)
Funny. I've always noticed that and wondered if anyone else had. I think it's written in the punk rock bible that you MUST use that chord progression in at least one song.
novaderrik wrote: almost 25 years (Pearl Jam) that each had -and continue to have- a HUGE influence on the music that came after them don't qualify as "classic"?
Some may say Pearl Jam was a good thing. I personally believe Pearl Jam is an awful, E36 M3ty band
The only time I can tolerate country music, is when I'm in the barn, shovelling E36 M3. Somehow, it's fitting.
Every time I'm at work I have Johnny Paycheck's Take This Job and Shove It playing in my head on permanent repeat.
So, when did Kid Rock go bro-country? And are his assumed legions of new "Today's Country Hits" fans aware that he's not straight outta Compton, but straight out the trailer park?
SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: Well that's no different than the classic rock stations saying Metallica and Pearl Jam are classic rock.
We just recently had a station change formats to "classic hip-hop" and the majority of the playlist is from 1999-2002
In reply to moparman76_69:
I was about to say "E36 M3 yeah!..." but 99-02? Da fuq?
dunno if its been mentioned, but Eve6 - promise and Fountains of wayne - stacy's mom are identical guitar-wise.
Funny, because I do happen to really enjoy both songs.
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