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JohnInKansas
JohnInKansas New Reader
3/21/12 12:31 p.m.

Is it legal to openly carry an air horn, or do I have to get a concealed carry permit?

poopshovel
poopshovel PowerDork
3/21/12 12:32 p.m.
DILYSI Dave wrote:
16vCorey wrote: Do you all live in Rapeville USA? I understand that it happens, but being robbed is way more common, and I don't know many people that are scared of being robbed just from being outdoors at night. I'm not saying throw caution to the wind, but even if you're being a complete idiot the chances of being raped are slim. Watch your back, be aware of your surroundings, don't be an idiot, and you're probably not going to get raped.
Sorry about that time we raped you in Florida.

FTFY. And yeah, when there's no girls by the pool, your the "prettiest" boy around, and you KNOWINGLY ingest the pills, you are kind of asking for it.

tuna55
tuna55 UltraDork
3/21/12 12:37 p.m.
poopshovel wrote:
DILYSI Dave wrote:
16vCorey wrote: Do you all live in Rapeville USA? I understand that it happens, but being robbed is way more common, and I don't know many people that are scared of being robbed just from being outdoors at night. I'm not saying throw caution to the wind, but even if you're being a complete idiot the chances of being raped are slim. Watch your back, be aware of your surroundings, don't be an idiot, and you're probably not going to get raped.
Sorry about that time we raped you in Florida.
FTFY. And yeah, when there's no girls by the pool, your the "prettiest" boy around, and you KNOWINGLY ingest the pills, you are kind of asking for it.

uhmm... Not sure what's going on here. Now I am glad we didn't meet up at CMP, though.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo UltraDork
3/21/12 12:39 p.m.
poopshovel wrote:
DILYSI Dave wrote:
16vCorey wrote: Do you all live in Rapeville USA? I understand that it happens, but being robbed is way more common, and I don't know many people that are scared of being robbed just from being outdoors at night. I'm not saying throw caution to the wind, but even if you're being a complete idiot the chances of being raped are slim. Watch your back, be aware of your surroundings, don't be an idiot, and you're probably not going to get raped.
Sorry about that time we raped you in Florida.
FTFY. And yeah, when there's no girls by the pool, your the "prettiest" boy around, and you KNOWINGLY ingest the pills, you are kind of asking for it.
poopshovel wrote 9 out of 10 people enjoy gang rape.

The voice of experience.

JohnInKansas
JohnInKansas New Reader
3/21/12 12:58 p.m.
poopshovel wrote 9 out of 10 people enjoy gang rape.

Joshua
Joshua HalfDork
3/21/12 1:28 p.m.
spitfirebill wrote: I'm not aware of any campuses that allow guns. And a lot don't allow other "weapons" such as stun guns, mace or pepper spray. Better check it out, but sounds like the GF doesn't want to bother with it anyway.

I'm from South Dakota, a state that passes gun laws which violate Federal ones. I know several people who have applied and been granted rights to carry their concealed handguns on a nearby campus.

rotard
rotard HalfDork
3/21/12 2:20 p.m.
Cotton wrote:
rotard wrote:
fastmiata wrote: Self-defense class. For whatever reason, the same words that come from a cop or other expert will carry more weight than when you say it. For years, I have preached practicing scenarios with my wife such as what gun would you grab if there was someone in the house and her (wrong to me) answer was a certain .38 chiefs special. When she went to a class, they preached using a shotgun which was always my answer. Unless you are gut shooting someone, you might as well throw the chiefs special at an intruder considering your chances of hitting the perp at a reasonable distance. There are now two barely legal shotguns in the house.
So, what's the spread on your "legal" shotguns? Something tells me that it's not very much.
I'll try and take pictures, or maybe a video, of 3 shots with a barely legal 12ga vs 3 shots with a .38 or similar pistol on a paper target. It's a HUGE difference. Once you witness it you realize why the shotgun is such a popular home defense weapon.

http://www.youtube.com/user/hickok45?ob=4&feature=results_main

Look about 8min into the video. Here's a normal 12ga loaded with 00 buck at about 20 ft. I'm assuming that you're not using bird shot as a defensive round. Yeah, it hits a bigger area than a pistol, but you still need to be able to aim. Training is key. I dunno how big the rooms in your house are, but you're probably not going to be 20 feet away from an invader.

NGTD
NGTD Dork
3/21/12 3:06 p.m.

I am always shocked at how quickly these types of discussions involving you folks from the USA immediately move towards get a gun. I guess I should stop being shocked all the time.

Anyway, I work on a campus and I can tell you that I know of very few that DON'T have a Safety Walk program (or whatever they call it). Most of them get very few calls. Tell your girlfriend to use that service.

Osterkraut
Osterkraut UltraDork
3/21/12 3:15 p.m.
NGTD wrote: I am always shocked at how quickly these types of discussions involving you folks from the USA immediately move towards get a gun. I guess I should stop being shocked all the time.

Aren't rights awesome?

93EXCivic
93EXCivic UltimaDork
3/21/12 3:24 p.m.

Our campus has a cop in training who would come around and give anyone a ride at night.

z31maniac
z31maniac UberDork
3/21/12 3:39 p.m.
Osterkraut wrote:
NGTD wrote: I am always shocked at how quickly these types of discussions involving you folks from the USA immediately move towards get a gun. I guess I should stop being shocked all the time.
Aren't rights awesome?

We could point him to crime statistics in places like Washington D.C. and Chicago, but why try?

HiTempguy
HiTempguy SuperDork
3/21/12 4:24 p.m.
z31maniac wrote: We could point him to crime statistics in places like Washington D.C. and Chicago, but why try?

Kind of misleading though, crime isn't done with legally obtained guns/people carrying permits.

The crime issue in the US is (IMO) for completely different reasons, but yes, you basically can't compare even the worst of the worst Canadian cities to some places down there. People think it's bad that 30 people were murdered in Edmonton last year for a population of 1 million.

Also, rights are an illusion, whether they have whole heartedly been granted to you "permanently" or otherwise, they are nothing more than an idea. Our "rights" are quite different here in Canada, but statistically it is MUCH safer here. So yea...

mtn
mtn PowerDork
3/21/12 6:41 p.m.
HiTempguy wrote:
z31maniac wrote: We could point him to crime statistics in places like Washington D.C. and Chicago, but why try?
Kind of misleading though, crime isn't done with legally obtained guns/people carrying permits. The crime issue in the US is (IMO) for completely different reasons, but yes, you basically can't compare even the worst of the worst Canadian cities to some places down there. People think it's bad that 30 people were murdered in Edmonton last year for a population of 1 million. Also, rights are an illusion, whether they have whole heartedly been granted to you "permanently" or otherwise, they are nothing more than an idea. Our "rights" are quite different here in Canada, but statistically it is MUCH safer here. So yea...

Make guns illegal in the US and nearly nothing would change as far as safety.

Mitchell
Mitchell SuperDork
3/21/12 6:59 p.m.

In before "If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns" quote.

rotard
rotard HalfDork
3/21/12 7:13 p.m.

Guns are fun. I'm about to get a slide fire stock for my M4.

HiTempguy
HiTempguy SuperDork
3/21/12 7:14 p.m.
mtn wrote: Make guns illegal in the US and nearly nothing would change as far as safety.

I'm actually pretty sure that is my point? Thank you for agreeing!

z31maniac
z31maniac UberDork
3/21/12 7:16 p.m.
HiTempguy wrote:
z31maniac wrote: We could point him to crime statistics in places like Washington D.C. and Chicago, but why try?
Kind of misleading though, crime isn't done with legally obtained guns/people carrying permits. The crime issue in the US is (IMO) for completely different reasons, but yes, you basically can't compare even the worst of the worst Canadian cities to some places down there. People think it's bad that 30 people were murdered in Edmonton last year for a population of 1 million. Also, rights are an illusion, whether they have whole heartedly been granted to you "permanently" or otherwise, they are nothing more than an idea. Our "rights" are quite different here in Canada, but statistically it is MUCH safer here. So yea...

I'm well aware of that, but you're still missing the point.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/21/12 7:19 p.m.

I still call for nationwide gun licensing.. with all Highschool seniors being required to get it (unless they opt out for "moral" reasons)

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
3/21/12 8:51 p.m.

Guns, knives, and pepper spray to walk around a school? I'm glad I quit college and went to work in Harlem instead. All the worring about being raped would make me sick.

NGTD
NGTD Dork
3/21/12 11:27 p.m.
Osterkraut wrote:
NGTD wrote: I am always shocked at how quickly these types of discussions involving you folks from the USA immediately move towards get a gun. I guess I should stop being shocked all the time.
Aren't rights awesome?

I am not anti-gun, my dad was a hunter (so is my FIL) and I grew up around rifles. I have shot plenty of different rifles. I also opposed the (now dead and hopefully stays that way) Long-gun registry here in Canada. Legally owned long-guns are rarely ever used in crime and normally only when they have been stolen.

I just can't see how everyone packing heat is the answer to everything.

CLNSC3
CLNSC3 Reader
3/23/12 11:40 a.m.

I got my girlfriend to get her CHL and bought her a Charter Arms Pink Lady....she loves pink what can I say...

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo GRM+ Memberand UberDork
3/23/12 11:44 a.m.

No one wants to get shot with a pink gun!

JohnInKansas
JohnInKansas Reader
3/23/12 11:51 a.m.

Always wanted to shoot one of these. Just once though. Can't imagine its one I'd want to live with. 5 shot, shoots .410 2.5"/3" shotgun or .45 Colt or .454 Casull.

They don't have a pink-framed version, but you can get pink grips!

N Sperlo
N Sperlo UltraDork
3/23/12 11:56 a.m.
CLNSC3 wrote: I got my girlfriend to get her CHL and bought her a Charter Arms Pink Lady....she loves pink what can I say...

I think I read about you a while back.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic UltimaDork
3/23/12 12:05 p.m.

In reply to JohnInKansas:

I don't like the Judge at all. The grip is way to small IMHO and I don't have huge hands.

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