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ultraclyde
ultraclyde PowerDork
8/20/19 5:01 p.m.

In reply to NermalSnert :

When I was at Georgia Tech in the late 90s a lot of the buildings had big emergency generators outside. They were all natural gas run Ford 460s. We had a lot of discussions about how long it would take them to realize a generator shed was empty.

Curtis
Curtis GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
8/20/19 5:34 p.m.
NermalSnert said:

Nice! On a related note: The people I work for have a 10 year old Generac back-up generator for their weekend house. I had the service people out to check on a no start issue and was shocked to see a Ford 5.4 Windsor engine when they pulled the cover. 10 years old with 35 hrs and it looked like new. It's supposed to start and run for 12 min. once a week (It does now) had it been doing that It would have only 100+ hours on it. There is no doubt in my mind that if this unit causes them any more irritation- it's out, "Replace it" So, I wonder how many good engines that have run on nothing but lpg/lng are out there that can be had cheap. Or, is the lpg/lng conversion irreversible?

The conversion either way is simple, unless its EFI... but that's pretty rare.  It's basically a simple carb swap.  Its even simpler when you factor in the fact that it's a generator that only really runs at one RPM.

a gaseous fuel carburetor has a pressure regulator that references vacuum (load) and allows more or less gas into a carb.  Since you have no liquid fuel, there really isn't any carburetion happening.  It's just two gaseous things being ingested.  The "carb" on this generator is basically a throttle plate inside a tube with a 1/4" cast iron pipe feeding natural gas into it.

Curtis
Curtis GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
8/20/19 5:50 p.m.
93gsxturbo said:

Man, i would be so tempted to do solar if you have any decent exposure at all.  Nothing like a rattly-ass generator to completely ruin the camping experience, especially the camping experience intensified by all the power being out.

How much non-spoilable food do you need?  The wife-unit and I went for four days on approx 45 quarts of fridge capacity and did just ducky and we were eating good.

Um... yeah... exposure. laugh  My campsite is buried in about 18,000 acres of a super dense mature maple, pine, and basswood forest.  For about 3 minutes a day, there is one tiny 2 sq ft patch of sunshine that hits my shed.

Put it this way... ya know those little plastic solar garden footlight things?  I don't get enough light for them to even come on at night.  I tried making a little decorative garden beside my trailer and I can't even get ivy to grow.  In fact, left completely untouched for 5 years with potting soil, compost, and fertilizer, it hasn't even grown a single weed, grass, or dandelion.  Some years I get some random fungus in it though.  It looks like I just freshly tilled up top soil five years later.

We feed 8 family members (including two teenage boys) for about 2 months, so the three small fridges we have house a lot of frozen meats, our daily fish catches, and anything else which needs refrigeration.  We do get to town once in a while, but the closest real "town" is about 60 miles. We can get veggies and fruits from local farms, and there is a gas station about 10 miles away with staples like bread and milk.  We just want to avoid losing a freezer/fridge full of grub because the power goes out.  It's not just the inconvenience, it's the value of all the food.

nutherjrfan
nutherjrfan UberDork
8/21/19 2:26 a.m.

that loud crack was a direct hit just the other side of the neighbors house.  Almost took out the guys Outback.  Crazy thunder sounded well away.  Fairly bright out and boom lightning gets pissed at one of the trees on the block.  Boy Scouts motto couldn't be more necessary sometimes. surprise

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