Brad, did you screw up the suspension settings in your mustang before you shared it? Because I was checking yours to get ideas for mine, but good god man, how can you drive that damn thing?
I'd say mine was faster, but I couldn't get a valid lap with either, so it doesn't really matter.
Shelbys do not play nice on the Moonshiners Run course.
I tried a lot of things with the suspension settings, but yea... on comfort tires it is borderline impossible to drive. It's a bit difficult to drive on the race tires.
Check the S2000 and MX5 settings. They have 2 different tuning theories to them. The S2000 is all my gradual tuning over the course of the season starting from the defaults. The MX5 is based on the GT5Calc tool and then tweaked from there. The biggest thing is that the MX5 is significantly softer spring settings.
Honestly, I think camber and toe has a greater effect that just about anything else.
I've been looking online for tuning setups for the cars I drive the most. So far I've found one for the NA 3000GTs I have, works quite well. I've got some others set up, but I've yet to drive the cars.
A friend of mine is actually using settings from the Toyota bible for his yota stable. Apparently Polyphony got the whole simulator thing right, because pretty much every single one works with the cars he's put them on.
There are a few places at La Sarthe where you can save a bunch of time by shortcutting and not getting penalized. Are we using the same philospohy as we did at Monza - that if the game says it is ok it is ok? The turn just before entering the Mulsane straight can be cut. Just stay on the paved area and it saves a lot of time. Also the chicanes (Ford Chicanes) near the finish can be slightly cut (the first one) then driven straight through (the second one) without penalty. The 2nd part of the Porsche chicane can be cut drastically as well. Since the game does not penalize this I'm not sure how to enforce any rule that says do not cut them.
Just looking for a ruling here.
In reply to T.J.:
IMO, since like you say, there's no way to enforce it, it has to be allowed. As long as it's the same for everyone it really doesen't matter. I know I was surprised to find out that it doesen't cause a penalty but since it doesen't let's use it.
For the record... i think those shortcuts are the only way i came up from behind and won that race the other day online, TJ. 
Graefin10 wrote: In reply to T.J.: IMO, since like you say, there's no way to enforce it, it has to be allowed. As long as it's the same for everyone it really doesen't matter. I know I was surprised to find out that it doesen't cause a penalty but since it doesen't let's use it.
Yep. I am not going to go back and watch every lap of every car and penalize after the race. You take your chances when you cut the course. Cut too much, get a 10 second penalty, cut it right, save a second or 2.
Penalties are enforced by the game.
Brad, what about damage, are you going to set it to weak or heavy?
Any decision yet about where the start time and time progression will be set?
Damage will be set to high, just like every other week... don't wreck.
Start time will be the default which I believe is 16:00? And progression will be set to 45, I think that is what I tested.
I probably will only be able to participate in the first race tonight. I'll start the second, but then will need to tend to my parent duties.
So, it's going to be wet, right?
At least the start.
Blargh!!!!! 
I just set the start and progression times to 16:00/45 and it started raining on L1 in the Z06 race and rained the whole time. Then I did the HH and it was raining to start and was still raining on L4. By then I'd seen all I wanted to see and turned it off. Not my idea of a good time. It just seems unnaturally slick to me but what do I know, I've never raced in the rain. I did auto cross in it once though and won the index of performance award. The one that came closest to your other times in the day. Good old Hoosier autoX tires
They stuck in the wet almost as well as in the dry which all other times for all competitors were set in.
When I tested it in my online lounge, it only rained in lap 1 was damp on lap 2, dark on lap 3 and 4, sun up and dry on lap 5...
Who knows?
I don't mind if it's wet would prefer dry though....
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Brad, I watched the two races from last night and I see what you meant by "if the damage had been set to lite I would have had second". You're probably right, I know you're faster than I am. You seem to have the Vettes figured out. You've been up front since the beginning of the series. If you noticed, I said last night "I can't believe it". I had my share of problems also, a SC penalty on L1, another off or two, head on into the wall once, and a side slapper into the wall once. However, I got no damage and managed to save my tires enough for the car to still be driveable at the end.
The racing in HH was very interesting to watch. Everyone had their share of problems. Apex had a very fast car in the straights but a handful in the corners. You made it look easy but I rode with you for several laps and it surely wasn't. In both races you got out of "tank slappers" that would have put me into the gravel or wall. I enjoyed racing with you and T.J. I watched my own race then restarted it so I could see what happened to everyone else. I especially wanted to know what happened to T.J. (what was that, an ambulance?), and Apex., as you said, tires gone. I also watched the other battles going on. I think the performance of the 97 Civic R is one of the biggest surprises. If you could have stayed in the draft . . . the same applies to me. If I could have stayed in the draft . . . Another lesson learned. Grizz, I think you're getting the handle on this thing. You were running up front a lot.
So on to the Kart track in the south of France. I reset my gearing and ran a few laps in both cars. I set the penalty to max and intentionally jumped the chicane a few times with no penalty. I don't see any where else that is questionable. However, I haven't figured out the best line anywhere yet.
On lap 1 of the HH race I managed to catch on to Apex's draft on the straight and found myself going waaaay faster than I ever have in the DC5. When I wrecked I was trying to stay in Graefin's draft and watching Apex come up from behind me coming into Indianapolis and I totally misjudged my braking point, both due to the few extra mph from drafting and more to try to brake as late as possible to not let Apex by. Yeah I think that was an ambulance. I ended up with front end and engine damage and really couldn't get the engine over 8k rpm, which in my car means I had about 100 hp and zero torque. I limped along to the pits and got passed by everyone by the time I came out of there. I was happy that I managed to make my way back out of last and gain a couple places by the end. I think my best hh lap was a 4:20 something.
The vette race was a mess for me. I crashed right at the pit entrance and in a panic somehow managed to exit the race. Oh well.
Next week will be interesting - there is nothing but walls and guard rails at Monaco and very little passing unless the car in front of you is nice and makes a mistake. I did a few laps in each car there and have to say I like driving the vette there, but the HH feels wrong on that track. Maybe some tuning will make it better, but it seemed like there was about the same amount of traction there as there was in the rain at Le Mans. Avoiding damage and pit stops will be the key to victory next week I'd guess, not all out speed.
I like that my internet booted me in the last minute of the HH race when i was closing on Cam for one more shot at 5th. Go figure.
The Clio was faster than i was expecting, but harder on tires than i was expecting, too. I had to pit at the end of lap 4 for tires, which sucked, since i was running a solid 4th. (Which is a miracle for me)
However... thinking about the performance of the car afterwards.... "The Pig" would have been a better choice. It seems to brake better, and doesn't turn much worse, if at all. Turn in is slower, but it's more stable through said turns. If i had the Pig and managed to jump out front quick, i'm pretty sure i would have given Apex a run for his money. Yeah, the FTO is fast (i have one), but it ain't hitting 200mph on the Mulsanne like the Pig. 
Vette race, i dont' even want to talk about. I'm not racing in the rain anymore.
Next week's race... dunno what i'm going to do. I can get around the course clean in the Vette, but my tires only last 2 laps. I cannot, repeat, CANNOT get around the course clean in HH. I did 15 test laps last night, and EVERY lap resulted in engine damage. Will probably sit out next week so i don't wreck anyone else. No loss, i hate that track anyways. Always have.
Graefin10 wrote: Brad, I watched the two races from last night and I see what you meant by "if the damage had been set to lite I would have had second". You're probably right, I know you're faster than I am.
I didn't say that to take away from your win. You totally deserved it. I made a mistake, and it should have cost me. My point was, that if we would have lessened the damage, I wouldn't have been penalized for making the mistake and your clean drive would not have been rewarded. I was faster for 5 laps... just it was a 6 lap race.
@Nick, sorry again for the bump in the Z06 race. You drafted by and then pulled in front of me. You were in front by about half a car length and all I could see was your rear end and gray mist. I couldn't see my brake markers, and I swear your brake lights didn't come on... next thing I know I am in the back of you and then straight lining the gravel trap in the first chicane. I came out of it with a 10 second penalty and minor damage on both of my front corners, although the damage didn't really seem to affect my car.
I wish I could have run the HH race. It looked a lot closer than the Z06 race, but super-dad duties never end. Hopefully I will have a chance to check out the replay sometime today.
I hate the penalties in the chicanes on that track by the way. "Oh, you blew the corner and now you're stuck in the sand? Here's another 10 second penalty for your troubles."
Graefin10 wrote: Grizz, I think you're getting the handle on this thing. You were running up front a lot.
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I think I finally have the Vette set up the way I like it, I spent most of that race focused solely on not hitting anything or getting penalties. I was braking early and trying my hardest not to slide in the wet. I gotta say, I still have issues keeping my back tires in one piece, I couldn't keep the car straight on lap 5 and got some damage, but going that long without crashing makes me happy.
The Cit, I have no idea what it did at the beginning of the race, the car started to slide under braking so I stopped steering as far to the left and the damn thing snapped to the other direction and I was in the sand. Only time that has ever happened and it never happened again in the race, so I'm not sure what to make of it. I do know I'm muy happy I changed the gear setup in the trans, the new setup makes that car accelerate so much better that it used to, and I was still hitting 176 before I had to brake for the first chicane.
Next week...... I'm not predicting good things for me , the little bit of practice I got before my game screwed up tells me I'm going to be hitting the wall a lot with either car.
Not as irritating as Laguna Seca where I seemed to earn a 10 second penalty everytime my tires touched sand and one time got two 10 sec penalties for one off. Not sure if there are any short cut penalties at Monaco.
There is a certain magic when you get the part of the track from the chicane to the finish just right. I predict there will be at least one car with major damage on T1 lap 1, but the big pileup just may happen at T3. We will still be going relatively slowly at T1 the first time through. T3 is tricky for me.
We're all DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMED
I'm painting my cappucino white with orange wheels and claiming the citroen shrunk.
I want to know what Apex was hitting on the straights... Even being down almost 200hp from the Pig, i was still hitting 175mph+ in the Clio.
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