GRM - Gran Turismo 5 Racing League - Series 3

TJ- you know damn well I sure...cannot LOL

I bought my wheel for realism. Pretty much the reason behind investing in the wheel/PS3/GT5 was to tide me over the winter off-season from racing actual cars.

I havent ever used the controller on GT5, so I cant give a comparison.

I like the controller and apparently according to some of you (Graefin haha) say i'm good at it. I'm just used to the whole setup of the new controllers.

I have used a wheel before and obviously it's better lol

Three things:

1 - I shared the Focus, so you guys can try it out. The suspension is set like I had it most of the season. It's actually pretty sedate, which makes it easier to drive, which probably had a lot to do with its constancy. I will give your Focus a try Brad and see how it compares.

2 - Wheel: Grae is totally correct, for me at least. The wheel (and pedals) allows for a LOT more range of motion, thus a lot more potential precision. As an example, I like to set my brakes low to get more range, to make threshold braking easier. The wheel is the same way, much easier to make precise steering inputs, much easier to be smooth. The self centering of the controller can also be a problem (especially with damage!)

3 - Helping Brad: I can help out with the spreadsheet and the hosting if needed, but I generally don't have the "GT Time" to do the researching on cars etc.

aircooled wrote: 3 - Helping Brad: I can help out with the spreadsheet and the hosting if needed, but I generally don't have the "GT Time" to do the researching on cars etc.

That would be awesome. I can be recruited from time to time to help with the research and other items... it is just the week to week stuff that is getting difficult to do (if you haven't noticed).

A question about the ROC: I'm assuming production cars means sports tires?

That course you made is evil Brad, my poor Miura couldn't stay on it even with race softs.

I was testing the Cerbera Speed 12 for the comedy option, funny thing though, adding weight moves its PP up. I added 200 kg of ballast thinking that would get it below 600, and the damn thing went up to 666(intentional # by PD, I'm sure). Best part, no more 4th gear burnouts and it's actually controllable in the corners. Even without downforce it handles alot like the RM Zo6.

The only limit for the RoC is PP... Run whatever tires you would like.

I'll run comfort hards if you'll let me run my FGT

your just driving them wrong

i'm sure ready for ROC....if all goes well, someone gets to live at my ISP

Wait... so 600pp is SERIOUSLY the only limit for ROC?

Interesting.

In reply to 92CelicaHalfTrac:

No race or RM cars.

I'm sure all of you are finding making a choice of cars for the upcoming two series as difficult as I am. If we could choose a different car for each race, it wouldn't be so bad I've narrowed it down now to two cars in each class and will change my testing now so that I can make the best choice. There's a lot to be said for a spec. series but this challenge makes planning a lot more interesting to say the least.

I think I've settled on my GT car, but it is not the '11 Camaro that I thought I would be driving.

As far as saloon goes, that's a bit tougher for me. I think I have one I'll go with, but I don't really get a long with any of them.

In HH spirit, I might run the SRT4.

Mostly because it doesn't spin out or slide on the moonshiners run course. Highest I can get it too is 599PP, I think.

I dunno, if I can find something better, like a lightweight 4wd or something. My R32 is fun, but the fun stops when it starts raining on the course.

@Grae: I didn't really have much issue with selection, I just tuned every car that qualified and tested them to see which I liked best. Same with Saloon, grab every 4 door and wagon and drive the crap out of them. It's expensive, but it's easy. My biggest issue is with choosing cars before I've driven all the others, which is why I've changed my choice like 4 times.

The RoC is going to be an interesting field of cars. I'm wavering on my choice and feel that I need to visit my garage and look around again.

After the RoC, we'll have a test-n-tune session. I may cut the laps so we can test both GTs and Saloons. Thoughts?

aircooled wrote: 1 - I shared the Focus, so you guys can try it out. The suspension is set like I had it most of the season. It's actually pretty sedate, which makes it easier to drive, which probably had a lot to do with its constancy. I will give your Focus a try Brad and see how it compares.

I just took it for a spin at MSR... I was actually several seconds faster than in my RS. The thing that struck me the most, and where I think the RS is losing time is in traction. I had VERY little wheel spin in your ST. Shockingly low... I think I only managed to break traction 1 time in a couple laps.

I will now be over analyzing your settings to see where we are different.

RoC fun fact of the day...

My RoC car (not disclosed) at 600PP is faster around MSR than my Z06RM at 625PP.

PP <> Performance indicator.

In reply to BradLTL:

Care to disclose laptimes of either?

As I stated before, if you are much slower than 2:30 you are off pace.

My RoC Car is...

... 4 seconds a lap faster than my F430 Scuderia

... 1 second a lap faster than my Z06 Race Mod

... painted a new color for the RoC

BradLTL wrote:

aircooled wrote: 1 - I shared the Focus, so you guys can try it out. The suspension is set like I had it most of the season. It's actually pretty sedate, which makes it easier to drive, which probably had a lot to do with its constancy. I will give your Focus a try Brad and see how it compares.

I just took it for a spin at MSR... I was actually several seconds faster than in my RS. The thing that struck me the most, and where I think the RS is losing time is in traction. I had VERY little wheel spin in your ST. Shockingly low... I think I only managed to break traction 1 time in a couple laps. I will now be over analyzing your settings to see where we are different.

The first car I though I was going to use in HH was the RS. But like you said, trying to maintain traction coming off the corners was a nightmare with the controller. It shredded tires so fast that the races would prob. have required two pit stops. That's why I was so amazed at how well you did with that car. Sure it was torqey and fast but if your tires only last for 4 laps . . . .

BradLTL wrote: As I stated before, if you are much slower than 2:30 you are off pace. My RoC Car is... ... 4 seconds a lap faster than my F430 Scuderia ... 1 second a lap faster than my Z06 Race Mod ... painted a new color for the RoC

Damn, my Speed 12 with weight added was just under 2 minutes.

I'm pretty sure my SRT4 is off the pace. I didn't really want to run a supercar for the race, I was leaning towards silliness. But since there isn't a tire restriction, I might just dust off the Whitesnake and pop some of the bolt ons back in place.

Grizz wrote: Damn, my Speed 12 with weight added was just under 2 minutes.

!!!!!!

2 minutes? Really? At 2:30(ish) there are several spots where I can't go any faster because my is airborne.

I can't imagine you can run sub-2 minute laps consistently. Although I am looking forward to being proven wrong.

Consistently? No. Keep in mind, this is a 1025hp, 666PP, 1200kg car on race softs than can chase down Lemans cars at Daytona.

Grizz wrote: Consistently? No. Keep in mind, this is a 1025hp, 666PP, 1200kg car on race softs than can chase down Lemans cars at Daytona.

What does it run at 600PP?

No idea, I seem to recall it's over 600 stock, so I think it's a lost cause.

I'm leaning towards my white Viper, mostly because I don't have much tuned up to or at 600 that isn't a race car.

Most of my supercars are stock, except my SLS and R8, I could run the RS6 Avant with it's full bore 900hp. That might be hilarious.