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racerfink
racerfink HalfDork
12/15/10 1:42 p.m.

Again, it's because of LAG. Next time, turn your car around in an online race and see if you can't hit someone. You can, because there's no ghosting, other than lag.

ManBearSTIG
ManBearSTIG GRM+ Memberand Reader
12/15/10 2:20 p.m.

Just because you can drive straight at someone, doesn't mean a car won't ghost. I have been in several online races. I have seen lag. Cars jump all over the place. You can't pin down where they will be next. That is the lag I have seen. This is different. It is happening at specific times, and the car goes from opaque, to translucent. Seems odd to me that the race would be going smoothly, no issues with lag, except RIGHT when I might hit someone. Not that you CAN'T hit someone. You can. I have seen that, too.

Can you provide some empirical data that it is lag? Is it actually documented somewhere?

racerfink
racerfink HalfDork
12/15/10 3:10 p.m.

If you turn around and drive the wrong way on the track, you will have crashes, because you will not ghost. I can't make it any clearer than that.

aircooled
aircooled SuperDork
12/15/10 3:33 p.m.

I had heard there was supposed to be ghosting for wrong way drivers, but I have not seen that.

What we saw was not lag that I have seen. As MBS said, lag causes all sorts of weird jumping. It may be a new way to deal with lag, but I saw no indication of his position skipping (which would almost have to happen with lag)

You WILL ghost if you get a penalty (e.g. cutting across a corner) while the game slows you for the penalty. It may have been a penalty for hitting me, but he never actually hit me (maybe that is part of it). I actually did the same to him earlier and did hit him (I waited for him to recover), but I got no penalty (maybe I wasn't going fast enough).

So there IS ghosting that is not lag.

ManBearSTIG
ManBearSTIG GRM+ Memberand Reader
12/15/10 3:33 p.m.

That is ONE instance of not ghosting. One. That does not mean it doesn't exist. I have listed specific events where someone HAS ghosted, right as a specific event was about to happen, and ONLY when that event was going to happen. I cannot be clearer, either. ;)

cameraboy5
cameraboy5 New Reader
12/16/10 3:33 p.m.

Sounds like I missed a good time. Should be on board the first or second tuesday after christmas. Keep up the great work! Scott

Rufledt
Rufledt Reader
12/18/10 6:47 p.m.

sorry I missed last time! i had a paper due on wednesday (which barely got in on time as it is)

This tuesday, though, I'm done with classes, and if my head doesn't explode before then, i'll be there. Currently I have a dillema. In prepping my '71 'Stang for the indy road course, The amount of power seems to have little to do with my lap times. I can either go for wildly overpowered and have a slidy, tire shredding failed attempt to keep tires from dissapearing, or less power and have an easier time controlling the thing, especially when tires are wearing. Both seem to produce lap times within a tenth or so, but the overpowered approach is much more fun.

aircooled
aircooled SuperDork
12/19/10 11:07 a.m.

I just did a few laps at Indy with my CM car. There is a very good chance of wall hits (and resulting pit stops) with this one. That first corner after the long straight is going to turn into a game of chicken every lap.

BradLTL
BradLTL GRM+ Memberand Reader
12/19/10 6:17 p.m.

I need to get some practice in before the race.

@aircooled... can you host this week? I have a family christmas dinner that night and I'll be pushing it to get back for the GRM class race.

aircooled
aircooled SuperDork
12/20/10 10:22 a.m.

I should be able to. Give me all the settings you are using.

BradLTL
BradLTL GRM+ Memberand Reader
12/20/10 1:28 p.m.

GRM Class: Disable all driver aids; Max HP 355; Min weight 1000kg; Tires Sport Medium; Damage Heavy; Grip Low; Penalty Max

CM Class: (Same as above) Unlimited HP; No minimum weight; Tires Comfort Medium

Also with the new 1.05 patch we will all get paid in dollars and exp if I read the notes correctly...

GT5 Patch 1.05 Details

aircooled
aircooled SuperDork
12/20/10 3:44 p.m.

OK, got it.

To all participants:

Don't wait until the last minute. The updated noted above is over 600megs!!, and is out today (Monday), so it will likely take a while to download. Make sure to start up GT5 sometime today or tonight to get the update.

Rufledt
Rufledt Reader
12/20/10 9:46 p.m.

lots of other cool stuff in that update, too. I'm pumped for this race!

BradLTL
BradLTL GRM+ Memberand Reader
12/21/10 10:15 a.m.

Shameless plug...

Round 2 tonight @ 8 CT

Road Course Indy

Still plenty of spots available, still no penalty for missing a race. Come join the fun!

aircooled
aircooled SuperDork
12/21/10 5:06 p.m.

I will try and open up the lobby sometime after 5 pst (6,7,8,9) to allow practice / qualifying. I will try to set the restrictions so that you can practice with both CM and GRM class cars (you will have to make sure your CM has the comfort mediums on it).

At least 5 min before the race (6,7,8,9,10) I will change the setting to allow qualifying (fasted laps during that time).

Notes: Make sure you have ABS turned off and stay off the walls!

Rufledt
Rufledt Reader
12/21/10 6:49 p.m.

hey aircooled i sent you a friend request dealy so i can join your lounge thing. Or is it gonna be on the open lobby thing?

aircooled
aircooled SuperDork
12/21/10 7:48 p.m.

Sorry, I am running late.

We did it as an open lobby last time with a code. I guess someone else could come in, but it wasn't a problem last time.

I will post the number in a minute.

Rufledt
Rufledt Reader
12/21/10 7:52 p.m.

k sounds good

aircooled
aircooled SuperDork
12/21/10 7:54 p.m.

OK Room is up:

1472-6118-3787-3250-1954

Rufledt
Rufledt Reader
12/21/10 9:43 p.m.

it sure was fun attempting to drive an old mustang on comfort tires! too bad i'll be missing the next few races because of travel, unless i can somehow get all of my stuff on the plane with me!

BradLTL
BradLTL GRM+ Memberand Reader
12/21/10 9:46 p.m.

Just got home... missed both races.... sucks....

so how did it go? could someone send the results so i can update points?

aircooled
aircooled SuperDork
12/21/10 10:07 p.m.

Small turnout this time, just me and Rufledt.

It was a FC vs FD for the GRM match. Rufledt pulled ahead and just kept increasing his lead, so he wins GRM

CM has an interloper, but he was nice, he was driving an S2000. He and Rufledt pulled away from me again and it looked like they had some good racing. Again Rufledt won, so a double header for him.

Hopefully next week we get a few more. The CM take a lot of concentration.

BradLTL
BradLTL GRM+ Memberand Reader
12/21/10 10:54 p.m.

Cool... did you guys get exp and $$?

I'll invite some other friends / car guys to try and increase the crowd on a weekly basis. Feel free to do the same.

aircooled
aircooled SuperDork
12/21/10 11:47 p.m.

Yes, we did get XP and money. I think 3rd for the first race was something like $16,000. I suspect 1st was somewhere around $20,000

Rufledt
Rufledt Reader
12/22/10 12:02 a.m.

yeah $20k, but that mini after race we did was much less

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