These videos pop up every day on my MSN homepage ever since I watched one of them. It's amazing how they build things in India or wherever outside in the dirt. Wearing sandals. I am fascinated.
MSN.com: Innovative Method of Creating Giant Gears Using Milling Machines
Safety sandals
I've caught myself coming home from work, scrolling through youtube, and watching one of these and just passing out and napping.
Relaxing, for some reason.
Here's a similar channel, but it's not relaxing at all. Here's a pretty good example of Amazing Technological Process...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_jXqfNiUVzI
I want nothing to do with a cast gear that big, unless it was originally a cast gear and strong enough for what it does.
Crazy
In reply to akylekoz :
100%
So many of those videos I have to shut off 90% of my engineering brain and just let the bad decisions wash over and around me.
In reply to akylekoz :
Especially cast like that. It's impressive and all to even do that, but doing it like that is exactly why processes changed to reduce flaws and get a cooling method to make stronger metal.
ShawnG said:Safety sandals
Think of the rupees to be made selling these over there.
akylekoz said:I want nothing to do with a cast gear that big, unless it was originally a cast gear and strong enough for what it does.
Crazy
That's probably the situation. There's plenty of cast gears in use all over the planet.
People want to make fun of trucks made in India but those trucks also manage to stand up to the roads in India.
I'm not saying everything there is made to the highest standard but it certainly seems to be made "good enough".
In reply to ShawnG :
I don't think that anyone's making fun of them. If anything, I feel sad that they are exposed to that degree of danger, and somewhat admiring that they do so anyway.
India is the new land of "Yes, we can," and "Safety Third...ish."
The amount of stuff they build with minimal infrastructure, old machines, and minimal regard for safety is impressive.
The safety squints, steel toe flip flops, and loose pajamas while running machinery are a little cringe-worthy.
If you ever doubted what could be welded with a stick, just watch them stick a truck axle back together.
My understanding is many of these videos are from Pakistan, not India?
In reply to ShawnG :
Im not making fun of them, I would of their customers. There are so very many things that can be done in a less than controlled environment. I would not consider gears on that list.
Their ability is great- big things are really hard to cast. And they do well considering the circumstances. But ways of doing this changed for good reasons.
My Facespace feed if full of these type videos. Watching some guy rebuild a Tatra engine on the side of the road using hand tools, rocks, some random precision tool kept in a special box, and some unknown liquid in a water bottle is just insane. My favorite is when they chuck an odd shaped piece of metal in some Soviet era lathe and just go to town. Need to resurface a cylinder head? Lathe. Need to deck an engine block? Lathe. Cut something in half? Lathe.
The ones like the OP said where they melt down some mish-mash of junk metal and turn it into some ridiculous large scale machinery piece are just....crazy. Just scrape the crust off the top off the molten pool and run with it. Metal purity is for suckers.
I trust their engineers as far as I can throw Rosanne Bar.
When I worked for TWG (Tulsa Winch Group), Dover wanted us to start using our office in India for drawing changes. Because it was quote "cheaper" than having me.......the guy with a Journalism degree doing it.
Add in the time difference and the fact that it usually took 2-3 back and forths for them to handle the incredibly simple task of Rev'ing a drawing according to the Redlines sent to them and updating the BOM it, in fact, was not cheaper or more efficient than just having me do it. There must have been some accounting trick that taking 3 days to get something done was better than me spending ~1 hour to update the CAD file and the BOM.
I was watching this one where they were casting these massive bandsaws in the dirt. The amount of huge voids in the frames that were just bondo'ed over was astonishing.
A while back the missus and I were watching a similar video where they were flattening 55 gallon drums and turning them into the kind of decorative luggage chest you would see at a TJ Max home goods or Cost Plus kind of store. At no point in the process were the drums cleaned. Who knows what they once contained, I saw a NFPA diamonds on a few. Those workers with zero PPE just hammering away at them, atomizing whatever the contents were and breathing it/getting covered in it.
In reply to Trent :
If people in the first world didn't choke on paying more than $45 for that chest, there might be more money for better working conditions.
Someone pays the price for the low cost of consumer goods and it's not us.
I wasn't saying anyone here is making fun of them, I know this place better than that. I just know the behaviour of my fellow humans.
It's amazing seeing what they can do with minimal tools and equipment. Very impressive.
my favorite is forming CJ2 Jeep bodies in the dirt.
In reply to Trent :
We get counterweights from India and China. Massive blocks of iron, about 3 foot by 3 foot by 18".
You think the voids, or metal purity in the India stuff are bad. China is a whole different animal.
Mr_Asa said:I've caught myself coming home from work, scrolling through youtube, and watching one of these and just passing out and napping.
Relaxing, for some reason.
I could see doing that, but I always have really weird dreams when I drive.
It's truly impressive the stuff they repair and keep rolling with. I've been known to do some sketchy things, but their level of either ignorance or zero effs given is wayyyy off the chart.
In reply to clutchsmoke :
I've seen bush mechanics shrink diesel cylinder liners by stuffing them in the snowbank while they're tearing the engine down.
"It HAS to be running so we can go home" is really motivating.
Mr_Asa said:In reply to Trent :
We get counterweights from India and China. Massive blocks of iron, about 3 foot by 3 foot by 18".
You think the voids, or metal purity in the India stuff are bad. China is a whole different animal.
Its amazing the stuff they melt to make "cast iron" , I guess its OK if you are just looking for weight but not so good if you were thinking of making cast iron cylinder liners !
ShawnG said:In reply to Trent :
If people in the first world didn't choke on paying more than $45 for that chest, there might be more money for better working conditions.
Someone pays the price for the low cost of consumer goods and it's not us.
I wasn't saying anyone here is making fun of them, I know this place better than that. I just know the behaviour of my fellow humans.
It's amazing seeing what they can do with minimal tools and equipment. Very impressive.
People choke on it because for the last 4 decades wages haven't kept up with increased cost of goods.
Por ejemplo, I started my current job in December 2016. Using the the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics CPI Inflation Calculator, just to match the rate of inflation since I started, my salary should be approximately $13k more per year than it is now. I have received raises during this time, but in 8 years my base salary has increased by $10k per year. This year they also changed our pay schedule from semi-monthly (twice a month, meaning 24 paychecks per year) to bi-weekly (meaning 26 paychecks per year). Why? I suspect it was to make it look like on paper our health insurance wasn't going up, when we actually have to make two more payments on it per year.
So taking on extra responsibilities, mentoring new employees, etc, isn't even rewarded with matching the increased COL. Much less an actual raise for going above and beyond. It's exactly like the scene in Office Space:
“Peter Gibbons: The thing is, Bob, it's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care.
Bob Porter: Don't... don't care?
Peter Gibbons: It's a problem of motivation, all right? Now if I work my ass off and Initech ships a few extra units, I don't see another dime; so where's the motivation? And here's something else, Bob: I have eight different bosses right now.
Bob Slydell: I beg your pardon?
Peter Gibbons: Eight bosses.
Bob Slydell: Eight?
Peter Gibbons: Eight, Bob. So that means that when I make a mistake, I have eight different people coming by to tell me about it. That's my only real motivation is not to be hassled; that, and the fear of losing my job. But you know, Bob, that will only make someone work just hard enough not to get fired. ”
In reply to z31maniac :
I've never been in that kind of work environment, I'd probably set the building on fire. :P
I'm self-employed. Everything is my fault.
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