fast_eddie_72 wrote: In reply to oldsaw: The VWs were absent this year, save the Colorado Scirocco. But sounds like there is a rule change in the offing that will let them run the 16V engine. I suspect we'll see some very fast VWs for me to finish behind very soon.
That's a good thing if it allows more cars to become competitive. Variety is good.
Makes me wish the EF Civics/CRX's would be re-classed out of CSP.............
poopshovel wrote: Wide wheels. Big goofy wings. What kind of retard does that?????
Must be those tuner kids who like swapping engines. 
bravenrace wrote: One more rabbit saved from the crusher?
To judge by the scene around here.. once the hellaflush kids are done with a car.. there is barely enough left for scrap value.
One guy around here has a rabbit pickup.. last I saw he had cut out all the wheel wells because of rubbing.. so inside the bed, you can see the tyres
mad_machine wrote: One guy around here has a rabbit pickup.. last I saw he had cut out all the wheel wells because of rubbing.. so inside the bed, you can see the tyres
I know that the hellaflush guys - and many of the people here - say that normal wheel wells (i.e. ones that are engineered to be the proper size for the standard wheels with the standard amount of wheel travel) look ugly because they have "too much gap" between the tires and the fenders. They don't, they have exactly the amount they are supposed to have.
IMHO, if you're going to lower the car and put on big enough wheels/tires to cause problems, you should use flares and build new, bigger tubs inside the fenders to accommodate the new wheels.
JoeyM wrote: I know that the hellaflush guys - and many of the people here - say that normal wheel wells (i.e. ones that are engineered to be the proper size for the standard wheels with the standard amount of wheel travel) look ugly because they have "too much gap" between the tires and the fenders. They don't, they have exactly the amount they are supposed to have.
Wierd - our stock E36 328i has "too much gap" and our stock E36 M3 had very little space between the factory fitted 8.5" wheels and the fenders. So, which car was designed with EXACTLY the amount of gap it's supposed to have.
I don't mind a well done stanced car. I don't necessarily get it, but if it keeps young people into cars then so be it.
I don't mind people doing whatever it is they want with their cars.
I won't buy a car that's been made Hellaflush, there is just too much work involved getting it to a normal state again.
JoeyM wrote:poopshovel wrote: Wide wheels. Big goofy wings. What kind of retard does that?????Must be those tuner kids who like swapping engines.
Arrrgh. They made it sound like we just had a pile of motors laying around. Jesus. We had to rob valves from parts heads to make one "good" head...AFTER we had already installed the motor and found it was running like E36 M3. The clutch and tranny had to be swapped each time. I vaguely remember making a woodruff key out of a beer cap at 4AM. Swapped multiple "unknown" radiators after damaging the one "known to be good" one that was in the car while swapping the first motor. Did I mention our "hoist" was a 4 X 4 post with a couple wratcheting straps and two drunks on either end? They were the best of times. They were the worst of times. Oh, apparently we're "drag racers," btw. 
I saw this one night and had to snap it, just for Anti-Stance.
As far as stretched tires go...Ive seen the trend back when I was still a kid. My Dad and uncles used to do it on their cars to make it look like the racecars of back in the days. Maybe thats where it started.
Toyman01 wrote:oldsaw wrote: That Rabbit in the OP looks to have a similar set-up to this National's competitor that regularly finishes in the trophies:He's fairly local to me and autocrosses with us. That rabbit is wicked fast.
I like it.
Wicked fast, and really wacky to drive unless you are the size of Mini Me. 
The ergos are so strange... but damn is it quick.
My version:
poopshovel wrote:JoeyM wrote:Arrrgh. They made it sound like we just had a pile of motors laying around. Jesus. We had to rob valves from parts heads to make one "good" head...AFTER we had already installed the motor and found it was running like E36 M3. The clutch and tranny had to be swapped each time. I vaguely remember making a woodruff key out of a beer cap at 4AM. Swapped multiple "unknown" radiators after damaging the one "known to be good" one that was in the car while swapping the first motor. Did I mention our "hoist" was a 4 X 4 post with a couple wratcheting straps and two drunks on either end? They were the best of times. They were the worst of times. Oh, apparently we're "drag racers," btw.poopshovel wrote: Wide wheels. Big goofy wings. What kind of retard does that?????Must be those tuner kids who like swapping engines.
Sounds like a bunch of Jawja rednecks trying to build a race car.
poopshovel wrote: I vaguely remember making a woodruff key out of a beer cap at 4AM.
That is epic.
Hella ISN'T about stuffing wider tires under a car to make it perform better. Some of the pics you guys have shown aren't Hella, they are ways to get wider tires than will fit inside the fenders. Adding flares is not hella.
Hellafunctional is creative and has a car type purpose. Stance is just to draw attention from the car outcast crowd. Hellafunctional is definitely in the GRM vein as it's making do with the parts and money you have.
oldsaw wrote: That's a good thing if it allows more cars to become competitive. Variety is good. Makes me wish the EF Civics/CRX's would be re-classed out of CSP.............
It makes my job harder since I can't compete with the 8V VWs yet, but I completely agree. FSP attendance was really disappointing. I'd rather be DFL in a healthy, fun class than, well, not quite DFL is a small, but still fun class.
No worries either way. I plan to be faster next year. The fast Civic and the BMW 2002 were setting a high bar. Both of those cars are really well developed and driven by really good drivers. There was a pretty decent gap after them to the next car. I hope to be running in that group next year. I wasn't a million miles off the Neons, and there were some darn good drivers there too.
I'm 21, don't have a flatbrim and hate hellalfush but at the same time, you can pull stance off as some have proven in this thread so far but too much poke/stretch/camber is dumb as hell though. There are some crazy wheel sizes being fit under these cars and I find that cool, at least these kids are having fun in the car world and like said above, keeping sweet cars out of the crusher. You mean to tell me that this is more stupid than the jacked up rear end with wide rear tires that stuck out 7 inches of the fender of the 70's? just to name an example
I thank those who defended this thread
RealMini, where did you take that pic?
NickF40 wrote: RealMini, where did you take that pic?
Outside a grocery store, in Brookfield, WI.
poopshovel wrote: Wide wheels. Big goofy wings. What kind of retard does that?????
I would suspect the kind that would put flaming horns on a 600
Curmudgeon wrote:poopshovel wrote:Sounds like a bunch of Jawja rednecks trying to build a race car.JoeyM wrote:Arrrgh. They made it sound like we just had a pile of motors laying around. Jesus. We had to rob valves from parts heads to make one "good" head...AFTER we had already installed the motor and found it was running like E36 M3. The clutch and tranny had to be swapped each time. I vaguely remember making a woodruff key out of a beer cap at 4AM. Swapped multiple "unknown" radiators after damaging the one "known to be good" one that was in the car while swapping the first motor. Did I mention our "hoist" was a 4 X 4 post with a couple wratcheting straps and two drunks on either end? They were the best of times. They were the worst of times. Oh, apparently we're "drag racers," btw.poopshovel wrote: Wide wheels. Big goofy wings. What kind of retard does that?????Must be those tuner kids who like swapping engines.
The preferred nomenclature is "Canexican Jiggernecks" but close enough. God bless you and your frogmore stew, my friend.
Welcome to being an old, crusty, you-know-what, guys. Your ID cards are in the mail.
Don't forget, our forefathers rigged their exhausts to shoot flames, stuck Lincoln grilles on Fords, added dummy spotlights, and affixed fake lake pipes. I'm sure their parents didn't get it, either.
David based on what todays rods and customs are when recreating what you described you just gave me a horrible mental image of what the future holds based on todays scene.
Get off my lawn!
Why do those hella-stance-poked-flush cars remind me of these?
2 pages and no on has said "herra frush" yet?
damn...
i wish i had some pics of the 79 Mustang notchback that one of my friends had in the early 90's.. it was a factory 2.3 turbo car that had a 351W swapped in, so it sat low.. he bought a set of some very, very 80's looking 15X8 Centerline 5 spoke wheels with 3" of backspacing and some 205/50/15 tires that were really stretched out on the rims with the money he saved up from his first few Pizza Hut paychecks...
the car was low and had the wheels sticking a good 2" out past each wheelwell and had a K40 CB antenna on the trunk.. he always got made when i made fun of his cute little remote controlled car.
Yeah really? Where have you been haha?
Also, some old pics of my car, ;)
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