Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:JG Pasterjak wrote: The guy's done nothing wrong, is actively trying to help, and EVERYONE is telling him to stay away from cops. Is this really the world we live in now?Ummmm.... yes?
See also: What to do if you find a gun in the UK.
Calling the drug abuse counseling center's a good idea though.
I'd ask the sister point blank about it right now w/o involving anyone else. That is, as someone else said she may be on the hook for it. I'd give her that much an opportunity to come clean w/o her ending up in a dumpster... and you'll know exactly who she is if she does fess up to illicit substance, definitely get her help after that. If she knows nothing of it flush it.
I'd flush/ incinerate it before ever involving the police and putting myself or family on that radar.
Datsun1500 wrote: The best solution would be post on a car board.
Of course that's step 1 to finding the solution to everything.
JG Pasterjak wrote: The guy's done nothing wrong, is actively trying to help, and EVERYONE is telling him to stay away from cops. Is this really the world we live in now?
Yes. And it's been that world here in the US for some time.
OP, knowing or not knowing will not torment you one bit. YOU will be the one tormenting yourself. Not a new situation for many people. It's what the likes of Alanon is for. You've already conceded that it could well be your dad, which is not what you said at first as the knee-jerk denial response to my post.
So again, let it go. Sing the song if it'll help.
JG Pasterjak wrote: The guy's done nothing wrong, is actively trying to help, and EVERYONE is telling him to stay away from cops. Is this really the world we live in now?
A-yup.
Some 20+ years or so ago, I was a Law Enforcement Explorer Scout- we worked with and helped out the Army MPs on things like missing persons searches and other things that would not get them in trouble for having a bunch of 18-year-olds doing. I generally thought they were good guys and took keeping people safe and helping them were jobs they took seriously and took pride in.
Now? In the time of ridiculous incarceration rates and (heavily) documented abuses of power, escalating use of military-style hardware, and asset seizures to fund police departments buying things like Margarita machines? Even as a law-abiding very white male who doesn't even drink, under most circumstances an encounter with the police will have my guard up...
Datsun1500 wrote: The best solution would be post on a car board.
Yeah, well, hindsight you know...
foxtrapper wrote:JG Pasterjak wrote: The guy's done nothing wrong, is actively trying to help, and EVERYONE is telling him to stay away from cops. Is this really the world we live in now?Yes. And it's been that world here in the US for some time. OP, knowing or not knowing will not torment you one bit. YOU will be the one tormenting yourself. Not a new situation for many people. It's what the likes of Alanon is for. You've already conceded that it could well be your dad, which is not what you said at first as the knee-jerk denial response to my post. So again, let it go. Sing the song if it'll help.
I don't agree at all that that is the world we live in. I'm 99% sure that if I went to my local police station, they would be nothing but helpful.
And no, I never said it could be my dad, unless it was a legitimate medication. Even if I did, isn't that the point of discussing things?
But hey, I'm glad you know me and my dad better than I do!
In reply to bravenrace:
Then why haven't you done it yet?
In reply to tuna55:
Uh, I just made this post this morning, and I've been at work all day.
Seriously, while that is true, I asked here only because I really had no idea what to do, but felt I had to do something. Now, obviously you all can't get a good understanding of my family dynamic from anything I say here, but trust me when I say that taking this directly to either of my sisters without knowing what it is would not end well, regardless of what the substance is.
Cotton wrote: Rub some on your gums and tell us how you feel. I always wondered why they do that on TV
It makes your mouth numb and its an accurate way to test. Get some strippers and have a party!
Hey I've thought of a good compromise between finding out what this stuff is and not potentially being in possession of a hefty amount of Dr. Rockso's favorite: Save a small amount (like, maybe the volume of 2 peas) as a sample for testing in a ziploc bag and get rid of the rest.
In reply to GameboyRMH:
Good suggestion. Thanks.
Sorry I'm late to the party.
First: http://www.chiefsupply.com/forensics-source-odv-10-narcopouches-narcotic-field-tests.html?gclid=CjwKEAjwxKSoBRCZ5oyy87DimEcSJADiWsvg8tZrMT-IxBG5xpqYGAxX-nx8_04MSRw-3ZkwPMuezRoCG2zw_wcB
Second: When I found a bag of weed behind the seat of my last P71, I wanted it in a police report. I had a cop come by my house to write it up. I thought this would be a good idea in case I missed anything. On that front I agree with JG. I don't have anything against destroying the substance in this situation, though.
Pure caffeine (somewhat popular with the athletic) is a white powder with a strong bitter taste, lots of protein powders and such are loaded with it too. Coke would have had a numbing effect as previously mentioned, and is a fairly coarse powder, think laundry detergent. Heroin often has a vinegar smell to it, and a growing bitter taste. Anything else I can think of that comes as a white powder would be a designer psychedelic of some sort and a taste of it would have likely given some, uh, interesting effects. I highly doubt its anything illegal though, a bag that big of anything like that isn't forgotten about. I wouldn't jump to thinking it's illegal drugs so quickly.
I also wouldn't involve law enforcement with this, the most dangerous thing about most drugs these days is getting caught with them. Big unmarked bags of white powder are close enough regardless of what's really in them.
I agree with Kenny - that big of a bag leads me to believe it is NOT drugs. Drug users tend to carry very small quantities, and if they did have a big quantity she would be at your house looking for it. Most likely protein, creatine, old man laxative, etc.
In reply to Kenny_McCormic:
This is a very fine powder, and looks like it "may" be flaky too, but its so small I can't tell for sure without putting it under a magnifying glass. I'm thinking more and more than this is either a anti-laxative for my dad or something kind of energy additive for my sister. Probably making a bigger deal about it than it's worth, but better safe than sorry.
Personally, I'd just ask the sister, being all the more prepared to toss it immediately if the answer she gives does not give you a reasonable explanation. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. I don't think you can do anything more than be honest. Tests are not accurate for a lot of scenarios- i.e. what if it's a drug but not cocaine? etc...
Good luck.
bravenrace wrote: But hey, I'm glad you know me and my dad better than I do!
Don't dress up like a troll, you don't look good in the costume.
What I was pointing out was the change from your:
"Its not my Dad's. No question."
to
"That may be, but my Dad was on a LOT of medications, and he was know for doing some peculiar things at times. It wouldn't surprise me if he took something like an over the counter med for indigestion or something like that and put it in a baggy so he always had some on hand."
You're working yourself up about something you have no control over (other people and their actions), and no actual knowledge of (it's just a baggie with powder in it, you're jumping to illegal drugs and such).
Throw it away, and let it go.
If you simply must "solve" the mystery, it's Goody's aspirin powder. It's gone bad now, that's why it tastes bad. So throw it out. Mystery solved, and you can go back to being sad your dads gone and continuing to love your sister without any worries and not needing to worry your mother over anything.
In reply to foxtrapper:
I'm not going to go down this road, but your statement very much implied that it was my Dad's cocaine. That is what I was responding to. Later, someone else brought up that it could be a legit medication for irregularity, and that is when I made the second statement (wow, I learned something and admitted it). Two different things at two different times in two different contexts. My statement about you knowing me and my dad better than me was in response to assumptions you must have made to say what you did, and I just pointed that out in my normal smart ass way. You in fact did it again in your last post. If you don't want to help, don't. But trying to turn the discussion in a different direction because you are hung up on details only I know the truth about doesn't help anything. That's all I'll say about it.
bravenrace wrote: In reply to Curmudgeon: So you don't think I could go to my town's police department, tell them the truth (except leave my sister out of it), and have them determine what it is?
This sounds like a good idea, on the surface. The problem is, if it does turn out to be something illegal and this vehicle is in your family (as opposed to being a used car you just picked up) the police will immediately be very suspicious. If the sister is bugging you for the car because of this stuff rather than the car itself, it is possible that she is already on their radar and the car would be too, since she has been driving it. jg makes a good point about doing the right thing but if you think family relations are strained now... 
You have no way of knowing up front. That's why I say I see no good coming of this by trying to have the cops ID whatever it is. If you really have to know, Gameboy's suggestion is probably best: discard all but a tiny amount and see about how to test it for legality, so to speak, only without involving the police. I would not confront sis without proof this is really booger sugar or whatever.
In the FWIW dept: a friend of my daughter's is Jewish. He carries a small amount of kosher salt with him for restaurant use and it's in a plastic baggie with 'kosher salt' written in Sharpie. It's amazing how many different things (both legal and illegal) are white or off white powder.
Like usual, you guys are nuts.
Tell her to come over because you need to talk. Ask her if it's her's, and what it is (if you really must know), then give it back to her. Seems pretty simple to me.
jim,
if you want mysterious substance revealed anonymously, i can probably get it to one of my cousins in the CPD. or at least call them and tell them what's up and see what they say to do.
Zomby Woof wrote: Like usual, you guys are nuts. Tell her to come over because you need to talk. Ask her if it's her's, and what it is (if you really must know), then give it back to her. Seems pretty simple to me.
Where is the fun in that. Even if it's laxative it would be more fun to snort it off a hooker's ass.
If it was that much coke she would have asked for it by now. I've never met anyone that careless with their medicine.
This thread is going to make me paranoid about buying baggies of bulk items at Whole Foods. I don't need drama over my vital wheat gluten.
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