I found one, it is my new employer. Every request, every inquiry, every issue, all feedback, all questions, all problems...they all go into a black hole. Nothing ever comes back. Not one thing. No emails, no calls, no light, no sound, no nothing. E=MCsux
Do the paychecks still cash?
In reply to pinchvalve:
It just seems like a long time because you are on the event horizon.
Start throwing 10mm sockets at it. They all end up there anyway.
^ damn it, you beat me to it! 
Do you work at Kruger Industrial Smoothing?
People always act like if we had a required 1-month vacation (unpaid) every year, that we'd lose out on productivity to the rest of the world.
No, I'm pretty sure we're losing on productivity because there are lot of stupid business practices out there. People get jobs, get confident of their value, and proceed to coast.
I've also noticed lots of "you're not my boss so I don't need to answer you", then you contact that persons boss and you get answers (and some grudges) quite quickly.
In reply to pheller:
If I were forced to go a month without a paycheck my family would be homeless.
I proved black holes exist years ago. There is frequently one somewhere between the hand that drops things and the ground. And if there is no black hole, there is a unexplained force that causes the dropped item to land under the center of the car. I'm pretty sure I could drop a socket from my easy chair and it would land outside, under SanFord, assuming it didn't just vanish.
pheller wrote: People always act like if we had a required 1-month vacation (unpaid) every year, that we'd lose out on productivity to the rest of the world.
unpaid? I get 5 weeks paid a year. Yes, I can take them all at once if I wanted to.
And I do know some people who get a month unpaid every winter when their factory jobs shut down for cleaning and refitting. They collect unemployment during that time
I have on in the trunk of my Corolla. Stuff goes in and then disappears. Then reappears months or years later. I just found three umbrellas in there. My wife has been asking where they went for about a year.
mad_machine wrote:pheller wrote: People always act like if we had a required 1-month vacation (unpaid) every year, that we'd lose out on productivity to the rest of the world.unpaid? I get 5 weeks paid a year. Yes, I can take them all at once if I wanted to. And I do know some people who get a month unpaid every winter when their factory jobs shut down for cleaning and refitting. They collect unemployment during that time
That's cool, but your in the minority. Very few American jobs give significant vacation time, especially earlier in tenure.
And I'd actually be more in favor of the ability to buy vacation time rather than get it unpaid.
In either case, American's work too much and the vast majority of our time spent at work is not very efficient.
In reply to pheller:
I disagree that it's a minority. Lower wage jobs, sure. but it's also unskilled labor that an untrained monkey could do, so the need to keep them happy isn't as high.
I honestly don't know one person my age which is the 30's who has more than 4 weeks of vacation plus Holidays, aside from teachers.
My large utility company doesn't give 4 weeks of vacation until 10 years of employment. My past employer, even larger, didn't give 3 weeks until 5 years of employment.
Maybe we're all in the wrong industries.
Regardless, that isn't the topic at hand. I think we as Americans are pretty inefficient in the workplace. Resistance to change, lack of enthusiasm, burn out all seem pretty common.
Oh, at the dealership 3 weeks was all you ever got and that was at 10 years. Where I am now is 3 weeks at 3 years PLUS a week of PTO as well as the ability to roll over a week of each to give you 4 weeks of vacation and 2 weeks of PTO plus normal holidays. At 5 years that becomes 4 weeks/1 week, making it max (if you are wise with your time off) to 5 and 2, or 7 weeks. that's almost 2 months off work. Time that around a holiday season and you could easily make it 2 months.
pheller wrote:mad_machine wrote:That's cool, but your in the minority. Very few American jobs give significant vacation time, especially earlier in tenure. And I'd actually be more in favor of the ability to buy vacation time rather than get it unpaid. In either case, American's work too much and the vast majority of our time spent at work is not very efficient.pheller wrote: People always act like if we had a required 1-month vacation (unpaid) every year, that we'd lose out on productivity to the rest of the world.unpaid? I get 5 weeks paid a year. Yes, I can take them all at once if I wanted to. And I do know some people who get a month unpaid every winter when their factory jobs shut down for cleaning and refitting. They collect unemployment during that time
How is buying a day off different than taking it unpaid?
Being self-employed, I can actually take as much vacation time as I wan't. I usually take a week or two, plus a couple of long weekends. That's enough, any more and I have a very hard time getting my head back into business.
My business partner can do the same, but he hasn't taken a day off in 7 years, and has no interest in taking any. He is literally in the office every day of the week, weekends included.
In reply to z31maniac:
Typically when you buy time off your essentially telling your employer "here, hold this money and pay me when I take my vacation". It's a way having of a constant income stream, which in some cases is necessary for insurance coverage.
Toyman, what kind of work do you do?
I've got a buddy who as a small business owner could work 7 days a week if he wanted. He doesn't, but he could. He's pretty efficient.
Alternatively, if everyone in my company worked in the most efficient manner possible, I'm not sure how much work I'd have.
In reply to pheller:
Automatic door sales, service, and installation. These.
I could work my butt off 7 days a week, 10 hours a day, make bundles of money, have ulcers, and die rich. I choose to work 4.5 to 5 days a week, 6-8 hours a day, and have enough to be happy with my balance of income and personal time. I won't die rich, but I've known too many people that worked like slaves, retired, and died within the year. I'm going to enjoy my entire life.
You're doing it right Toyman.
An pinchy: what kind of employer? Is this a person that's a black hole, or an entire enterprise that DGAS.
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