If the NASCAR fans had thier way...

Its not NASCAR cars that I rag on, its, well, the interchangeable drivers, the politics, etc.., that I rag on. (Kind of like F-1)

hotrodlarry wrote: Not sure about dirt, but building a cheap 4 cyl to run on asphalt tracks is pretty fun.Even with being "stock" there's still alot of work that goes into the cars.

We don't even have an asphalt track out here. Closest tracks are over in Idaho. The dirt track is still out at the fair grounds it is just over grown and needs maintenance.

Chris_V wrote:

Kramer wrote:

aussiesmg wrote: Oh my brother, does it ever work check out the Aussie V8Supercars..... factory shells, 850 hp RWD sedans. They are awesome. http://www.v8supercars.com.au/ They have it all over Nascar and came from the same type of roots, sedan based locally produced race cars.

With a top speed nearly 20 mph less than NASCAR, they'd be getting lapped at many US tracks. And I'd like to see these drivers survive the wrecks we saw yesterday at Talledega. And, according to wikipedia, the Commedore is hardly a factory shell:

wikipedia wrote: For the model to be homologated, V8 Supercar granted the Commodore a custom fabricated bodyshell into which a limited number of production bodyshell panels are incorporated. As a result, the roofline is lower than production and the rear door is shorter such that externally the rear doors, roof and rear quarters all consist of specialised custom coachwork panels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V8_Supercar After reading that wiki article, the V8 Supercar series seems nearly as spec as NASCAR. I see very little difference, other than NASCAR having safer cars.

Safer and faster cars, in fact. Stock car as a term is to separate those NASCAR racers with full bodies from the Modified and Super Modified classes. The televised races are the NASCAR Grand National class. but they are called "stock cars" for the same reason thas "production cars" are called that in road racing, evn though there is damn little "production car" in them. It's to separate them from the open wheel classes. Stock car: Modified: Super Modified: As they go up, they look closer and closer to open wheel cars. Kind of like how an SCCA "production" car, like this one: has very little "production car" in it. Fiberglass hood, trunk, and fenders over a mostly tube frame...

that super modified has a Ferrari badge on the nose....

Lol! Yeah, and a Chevy V8.

Kramer wrote:

aussiesmg wrote: Oh my brother, does it ever work check out the Aussie V8Supercars..... factory shells, 850 hp RWD sedans. They are awesome. http://www.v8supercars.com.au/ They have it all over Nascar and came from the same type of roots, sedan based locally produced race cars.

With a top speed nearly 20 mph less than NASCAR, they'd be getting lapped at many US tracks. And I'd like to see these drivers survive the wrecks we saw yesterday at Talledega. And, according to wikipedia, the Commedore is hardly a factory shell:

wikipedia wrote: For the model to be homologated, V8 Supercar granted the Commodore a custom fabricated bodyshell into which a limited number of production bodyshell panels are incorporated. As a result, the roofline is lower than production and the rear door is shorter such that externally the rear doors, roof and rear quarters all consist of specialised custom coachwork panels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V8_Supercar After reading that wiki article, the V8 Supercar series seems nearly as spec as NASCAR. I see very little difference, other than NASCAR having safer cars.

Biggest difference is I never fell asleep watching the V8 super cars. Nascar puts me to sleep every time unless they are running a road course. Watching 40 cars drive in circles for two hours is boring (to me) particularly on the super speedways.