patgizz
patgizz GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/26/10 9:43 p.m.

is there anyone to report something like this to?

i have a 2003 chevy cavalier it runs fine and shifts fine and needs nothing i dont have the title so u cannot get plates for it.you can drive it home.............it a PARTS CAR BUT U CAN DRIVE IT HOME.....................cannot obtain title car has a lein so cannot get it!
MrJoshua
MrJoshua SuperDork
8/26/10 9:45 p.m.

The report features need to be revamped to include illegal, scam, etc...

integraguy
integraguy Dork
8/26/10 9:47 p.m.

I'm starting to see at least 1 or 2 a day of these "don't have a title" cars. I keep telling myself that the cops are checking these ads out, just like they check out auto parts scrapyards or pawn shops.

I think you will notice, tho, that you rarely see something like a vintage 'Vette advertised as no title, or any BMWs.

stuart in mn
stuart in mn SuperDork
8/26/10 10:07 p.m.

Go up to the top right corner of the Craigslist page and flag the ad, they're usually pretty prompt in taking them down. Just about every time I look at the local Craigslist I flag a dozen or so scam ads for cars.

MrJoshua
MrJoshua SuperDork
8/26/10 10:10 p.m.

In reply to stuart in mn:

What category do you flag them under?

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
8/26/10 10:45 p.m.

Prohibited?

foxtrapper
foxtrapper SuperDork
8/27/10 5:27 a.m.

Mea,. it's also quite likely real.

The holder of the lien doesn't do their part when it's paid off. You the title holder don't do your part when the lien is paid off and the lien holder does their part. MVA doesn't do their part when the lien holder and title holder do their parts. God help you if the lien holder bellies up or dies. Buy a car from a friend cheaply, who never does their part with the lien. Etc, etc, etc. BTDT many times.

It's an old Cavalier. I really do not think he's selling stolen car on Craigslist, especially for cops to come and admire.

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt Dork
8/27/10 7:57 a.m.
integraguy wrote: I think you will notice, tho, that you rarely see something like a vintage 'Vette advertised as no title, or any BMWs.

Which is odd because at least in Georgia, you legally could sell anything '85 or older with no title, and many older cars have had their title lost.

ClemSparks
ClemSparks SuperDork
8/27/10 8:06 a.m.

I like how around here folks will advertise a car, "No title, but you can file for a lost one."

Um...No. In MO, the only person who can get a title for the car is the person on record with the state as holding title to it. To try to get a title any other way is more than an 'uphill battle.'

Clem

stuart in mn
stuart in mn SuperDork
8/27/10 8:07 a.m.
MrJoshua wrote: In reply to stuart in mn: What category do you flag them under?

I click on the prohibited button when I do it.

skruffy
skruffy SuperDork
8/27/10 9:57 a.m.

I see motorcycles on craigslist all the time like that.

Nitroracer
Nitroracer Dork
8/27/10 7:38 p.m.

As soon as I see 'no title' in an ad I close the tab and move onto the next find. If you don't have the title you aren't serious about selling.

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand Dork
8/27/10 7:49 p.m.

The other way I look at it, if you can't be bothered to replace a lost title on a vehicle, you probably can't be bothered to look after it in other ways either.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
8/27/10 8:30 p.m.
ClemSparks wrote: I like how around here folks will advertise a car, "No title, but you can file for a lost one." Um...No. In MO, the only person who can get a title for the car is the person on record with the state as holding title to it. To try to get a title any other way is more than an 'uphill battle.'

In Ohio, it takes about 10 minutes real-time. I've done it twice - once when I sold a car and the buyer backed out, the other when I lost the title. I asked: the old title's number is invalidated and gets re-referenced to the new title's number. The old title becomes a worthless piece of paper, in case it's ever found.

There's no excuse for "lost title" here.

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/28/10 2:01 a.m.

Not at all what I was expecting

ClemSparks
ClemSparks SuperDork
8/28/10 9:08 p.m.
Knurled wrote:
ClemSparks wrote: I like how around here folks will advertise a car, "No title, but you can file for a lost one." Um...No. In MO, the only person who can get a title for the car is the person on record with the state as holding title to it. To try to get a title any other way is more than an 'uphill battle.'
In Ohio, it takes about 10 minutes real-time. I've done it twice - once when I sold a car and the buyer backed out, the other when I lost the title. I asked: the old title's number is invalidated and gets re-referenced to the new title's number. The old title becomes a worthless piece of paper, in case it's ever found. There's no excuse for "lost title" here.

I wasn't very clear about my point above. In Missouri, it is also very easy to get a "Duplicate" title for a vehicle that is titled in your name. All it takes is 5 days and $11 or so.

What irks me, however is when people who are ignorant about the process say that because they have a vehicle without a title (like never assigned to them and now has a $200 title penalty which may be more than the car is worth) that it "should be easy to file for lost title."

Here, the only person who can get a "duplicate" or replacement title (for one that has been lost and/or destroyed) is the person on record as the title holder. And you have to show ID.

Clem

internetautomart
internetautomart SuperDork
8/28/10 11:52 p.m.

In illinois (and wisconsin) it is not hard to get a title to a car that doesn't have one. You will need to make sure there is no lien listed to the title and that the car is not reported as abandoned or stolen.
Yes I have done it several times in Illinois and I have discussed it with Wisconsin.

patgizz
patgizz GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/29/10 8:54 a.m.

i figure this cavalier owner owes way more money on the car than it is worth, wants some quick cash, and when they come looking for the car will report it stolen to get out of the loan

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