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GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/30/09 10:04 p.m.

So today in one of my MCSE courses we were waiting for everyone to arrive and some people were talking politics with the teacher. This is when the seemingly normal mild-mannered teacher revealed himself to be a religious nutjob conspiracy theorist (why are those so common in IT?) and after going on about how Jews control the world etc., he decided to go into more detail about "something revolutionary" that would happen later in the year, which he had mentioned before. So he went on about how America isn't really moral because putting capitalism before all else is inherently immoral because money is the root of all evil (or all kinds of evil depending on which version of the Bible you reference) etc. and a bunch of other crazymantalk until he got to the interesting part.

This conspiracy theory is based on the idea that any Federal Reserve-type system is inevitably doomed to collapse, the only things that can be controlled are when and how hard, and the current economic crisis was planned long in advance, and it's just getting started (he hints at the Bible again so it can be assumed this crisis is to be significantly worse than ever before). So eventually the US dollar drops so low it isn't worth dirt and there's no hope of ever paying off the debt. He hints that the euro plummets too. The wealthy, in-the-know people (might as well call them the Illuminati) who have been handed nice fat wads of bailout money then ditch US currency like a hot stinky potato for gold and investments in the remaining stable economies, and then to erase the debt, a new currency must be created. This currency is worth a lot, ranking up with the pound.

Now since I was enjoying his ramblings and I know that in conspiracy theorizing you get bonus points for linking theories, I said "You must be talking about the Amero"

He then looks at me like I've escaped the Matrix and says "Ah, see, [GameboyRMH] knows something..."

So then the Illuminati turn their gold and foreign investments back into Ameros and are suddenly wealthy again. From this you could assume that average joes are E36 M3 out of luck and oligarchy ensues, but he says that this makes Obama look like a hero, so somehow everyone recovers (maybe trickle-down economics are real in this conspiracy? Maybe that's pushing it ). He says this will happen sometime around June this year.

Anyhow it's very interesting and apart from the totally crazy racist/religious nutjob bits, quite plausible.

neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
1/30/09 10:25 p.m.

LBJ was behind JFK's assasination. Kennedy was going to be drawing down Vietnam, but Ladybird's family had some kind of interests over there, construction contracts, IIRC. Bridge X gets blown up, LBJ's inlaws get paid to rebuild it, repeatedly. This also plays into how LBJ's obstrucionist micro-managing of the war ("they can't bomb an out house without my permision",do not fire untill fired upon) was all intended to keep the war going.

plus the assasination took place in LBJ's home state.

My Father's theory, not mine, but i dont disagree with it, for the most part

P71
P71 GRM+ Memberand Dork
1/30/09 10:48 p.m.

I love nutjobs who think the Amero is real! I had a hobby in college of shooting down conspiracies. I even took a debate-style class just to make all the hippies see reality, it was so much fun!

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado New Reader
1/30/09 11:14 p.m.

Dude, I've heard so many of these things that I'm beginning to think "interesting conspiracy theory" is becoming an oxymoron.

MitchellC
MitchellC Reader
1/31/09 2:10 a.m.

The nice thing about "conspiracy" is whenever I hear it, I know I can start zoning out immediately.

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/31/09 2:42 a.m.

Dood that's why Guliani and Cheney blew up the twin towers after they took all the gold out of the basement.

Yes someone tried to explain the entire connection to me once on a subway but they were a little to drunk to be coherent.

TJ
TJ Reader
1/31/09 6:54 a.m.

I agree with you and think that guy is a little off, but like all conspiracy theories this one has to have a nugget of truth or it would go away.

The truth is that our current Federal Reserve system is destined to fail. That is a simple matter of math. It is an unsustainable system. Expect these bailouts to become larger and more frequent as the powers that be try in vain to maintain the status quo.

I find it amusing all the different ideas people have and the "proof" they use to justify them.

I think my favorite conspiracy theory is either chemtrails or HAARP. Google either and be entertained for a while.

curtis73
curtis73 GRM+ Memberand Reader
1/31/09 2:34 p.m.

I'm all for a good conspiracy theory, and I actually think most of it is plausible, but blindly assuming these things because you saw it on the internet is just ridiculous.

I have a pretty strong interest in these theories because I want to understand how things work and what our government is shafting us with this week, but that's the point... understanding it, not just blindly following it like the internet is a bible.

Schmidlap
Schmidlap New Reader
1/31/09 2:47 p.m.
GameboyRMH wrote: then to erase the debt, a new currency must be created. This currency is worth a lot, ranking up with the pound.

How does this work? If I buy a rusted out Ford Tempo for $250, then slap a Ferrari badge on it, nobody's going to pay $100,000 for it. Currency works the same way. If the US Dollar plumets, simply renaming it the Amero and putting Obama's picture on it isn't going to suddenly make it worth a lot more. If it did, couldn't Iceland simply invent a new currency that is worth 500X the Pound and use that to prop up their country instead of being in the mess they're in now?

Bob

jwdmotorsports
jwdmotorsports Reader
1/31/09 2:58 p.m.
TJ wrote: I agree with you and think that guy is a little off, but like all conspiracy theories this one has to have a nugget of truth or it would go away.

I have to agree with this.

I am kind of curious to know why he thinks this will all go down in June. Why not May of July?

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/31/09 4:03 p.m.
Schmidlap wrote:
GameboyRMH wrote: then to erase the debt, a new currency must be created. This currency is worth a lot, ranking up with the pound.
How does this work? If I buy a rusted out Ford Tempo for $250, then slap a Ferrari badge on it, nobody's going to pay $100,000 for it. Currency works the same way. If the US Dollar plumets, simply renaming it the Amero and putting Obama's picture on it isn't going to suddenly make it worth a lot more. If it did, couldn't Iceland simply invent a new currency that is worth 500X the Pound and use that to prop up their country instead of being in the mess they're in now? Bob

I was going to bring that up myself. Look at all those countries where they have a coup.. the country itself, even though the government is totally new and had no part in raising whatever debt the country has, still is responsible for it.

neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
1/31/09 4:19 p.m.

WTC building 7!!!!! In that case, think of all the conspiricy theories for 9/11

SVreX
SVreX SuperDork
1/31/09 5:12 p.m.

Funny what some folks can find in the Bible.

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado New Reader
1/31/09 6:31 p.m.
derekshannon wrote:
Wally wrote: Dood that's why Guliani and Cheney blew up the twin towers after they took all the gold out of the basement. Yes someone tried to explain the entire connection to me once on a subway but they were a little to drunk to be coherent.
I always refer to this when the 9/11 conspiracy some up. http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

ROFL! I usually send them this:

http://eclectech.co.uk/mindcontrol.php

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
1/31/09 6:49 p.m.

buy GOLD.. Stick it in your mattress..

BUY GOLD...................... n000000000000000000000wwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzz

Only tangible things are worth

JFX001
JFX001 HalfDork
1/31/09 8:10 p.m.

"Leave the gun, take the cannoli."

neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
2/1/09 12:15 a.m.

OMG Chemtrails!!! thats why everyone has food alergies!!!!

Please note this is sarcasm,

I liked one episode of "the lone gunnmen" In which one guy is bragging about how MIB is real and the Gov. leaks these to hollywood so no one would really beleave it once it is a movie... If that was the case my prefered cover up would be the stargate

gamby
gamby SuperDork
2/1/09 12:49 a.m.
GameboyRMH wrote: So today in one of my MCSE courses we were waiting for everyone to arrive and some people were talking politics with the teacher. This is when the seemingly normal mild-mannered teacher revealed himself to be a religious nutjob conspiracy theorist (why are those so common in IT?) and after going on about how Jews control the world etc.,

I'm more curious as to how this dude has a job.

I teach a couple of college music courses (music history) and am VERY careful to leave any sort of political editorializing out of the picture. Rule 1 w/ teaching is to STFU about your biases.

I'm surprised he hasn't had some sort of major slip-up that got him canned.

stroker
stroker New Reader
2/1/09 8:32 a.m.

The guy's obviously a moron. I can't imagine why you didn't walk out at that point. Did you stay and take the class?

aircooled
aircooled Dork
2/1/09 10:09 a.m.

Dr. Hess stole my free will... is that a conspiracy?

...oh, wait, he is instructing me that he didn't, never mind.

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt HalfDork
2/1/09 1:02 p.m.

I say there's an office in the CIA (or NWO, or the Freemasons, or... take your pick of who The Conspiracy is) dedicated to dreaming up the most hairbrained conspiracy theories imaginable and circulating them through the Internet as well as a handful of carefully mailed newsletters. These are carefully calculated that people who don't believe The Official Version will find them plausible and talk about them, while ignoring the Real Conspiracy!

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/1/09 1:28 p.m.

If I just walked away from every crazy/offensive person I had to interact with, I'd be living in the woods by now. Seriously.

Wowak
Wowak Dork
2/1/09 2:31 p.m.

The part about the federal reserve system being doomed to fail is accurate. The Federal reserve creates debt-money. The loan has to be paid back with interest, but the money to pay that interest never existed. Eventually someone runs out of actual money and defaults on a loan. The bank gets to take physical assets instead. If you can't see how the real wealth (property) is perpetually gravitating towards Fed banks, you have your head in the sand. And when the value of the dollar does collapse (and it will,) and you can't pay your mortgage, car loan, or CC bill, guess who reposesses all your stuff? The bank. So when the money is finally worthless, the bankers own everything physical, and thats the real wealth. On the bright side the closer it gets to going down the tubes, the more they'll pump "zero interest" loans into the economy obstensively to shore it up, but really it will just make sure that everything of value is collateral on a loan that can never be repaid.

Before you label me another whackanut conspiracy theorist, at least do your own research on what the fed does.

dorri732
dorri732 New Reader
2/1/09 2:48 p.m.
Wowak wrote: And when the value of the dollar does collapse (and it will,) and you can't pay your mortgage, car loan, or CC bill, guess who reposesses all your stuff?

The problem with this is that as the value of the dollar collapses, I get paid more dollars (which are worth less) for each hour of work, but my mortgage is still the same number of dollars each month.

Inflation is only good to those in debt.

Wowak
Wowak Dork
2/2/09 2:58 a.m.

Its a mighty big assumption that wages will increase relative to inflation. That definitely has not been true for minimum wage jobs.

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