They brought in many real former F1 cars to do the shooting. The owners insisted on driving their own cars rather than turning them over to stunt drivers. Man it must be cool to be über-rich!
They brought in many real former F1 cars to do the shooting. The owners insisted on driving their own cars rather than turning them over to stunt drivers. Man it must be cool to be über-rich!
Some movies are so bad they're good. Driven was so bad it was bad. Although, there are not many comedies I have laughed as hard at as I did that flick.
Tom_Spangler wrote: Some movies are so bad they're good. Driven was so bad it was bad. Although, there are not many comedies I have laughed as hard at as I did that flick.
I actually like the film when treated as pure entertainment. Think of it as a Tom-and-Jerry cartoon episode named "Get to know your race car" and the silly scenes make more sense. I'm certain that some of them were intended to be informative for the ordinary veiwer with little interest in cars.
1) Why was there a stupid pick-up-coins scene? Probably because it explained to the viewer that a) these are not your sedan's street tires, they are much softer and stickier, b) drivers of these cars need to have VERY precise car placement - far more than normal street driving - even at the high speeds they run.
[Do you think the alternative, a dramatic voice over to explain this, would have improved the film?]
2) the street driving scene showed a newspaper stand being demolished and a skirt being blown up (Look, viewer, these cars are powerful). It showed the cars going under semi-trailers (look viewer, these cars are low.) lt showed the manhole cover being sucked up and flying through the air. (look at all the downforce the cars generate to grip the road)
There were some errors in the film that were clearly there to drive the plot (a driver can help another driver faster/better than a medical team) and I overlook those because they are there as story devices. There were eras and races when that might have been true
I guess my overall take on the film is that I had suitably low expectations (bought it in the mark-down bin) and that I found it entertaining enough that I'vw enjoy it, regardless of the factual errors. We have another thread right now where people are discussing Sons of Anarchy, Mad Men, Breaking Bad.....none of which I've felt the need to watch. I've watched Driven multiple times, so I consider my $5 bin find to be a good purchase
It's also worth noting that the film was not at all what Stallone intended. It was supposed to be about his character, Joe Tanto. If you watch the extra scenes and his commentary, it quickly becomes apparent that this was supposed to a movie about a former driver coming to grips with the fact that he is no longer competitive, accepting it, and learning to enjoy his new role in life as a mentor.
(Besides, how can you dislike a film about someone who spends their spare time metal shaping to build a replica of a race car from a previous era.)
Just wanted to link these from the article above:
Soooo, in this movie, at the end, do they show pictures / video of the actual drivers? I really hate it when they do bio / historical movies and never acknowledge the actual person. E.g. Walk the Line never showed a picture of Johny Cash or played any of his music with his actual voice.
aircooled wrote: Soooo, in this movie, at the end, do they show pictures / video of the actual drivers? I really hate it when they do bio / historical movies and never acknowledge the actual person. E.g. Walk the Line never showed a picture of Johny Cash or played any of his music with his actual voice.
Yes they do, including a couple of friendly shots of Hunt and Lauda talking. They were good friend at the time despite their on track rivalry.
Lesley wrote: I have it too. My friend Rick Bye (of Porsche Rothman's Cup fame) did the driving in the movie. You should hear him talk about filming it, they were lucky the cars stayed in one piece.
Damn it woman, you're a reporter, we need the whole story NOW. Stop fooling around on here and go get us some details!
Adrian_Thompson wrote:aircooled wrote: Soooo, in this movie, at the end, do they show pictures / video of the actual drivers? I really hate it when they do bio / historical movies and never acknowledge the actual person. E.g. Walk the Line never showed a picture of Johny Cash or played any of his music with his actual voice.Yes they do, including a couple of friendly shots of Hunt and Lauda talking. They were good friend at the time despite their on track rivalry.
Cool. Good move.
I really wish he would have done that at the end of Apollo 13. Tom Hanks looks nothing like Jim Lovell.
pinchvalve wrote: They brought in many real former F1 cars to do the shooting. The owners insisted on driving their own cars rather than turning them over to stunt drivers. Man it must be cool to be über-rich!
Keeps the liability insurance down too - that way the owners wreck their OWN cars 
As for resemblance to the real people, I'd rather see a good actor than a doppelganger. Hanks may not look like Lovell, but that sure didn't take away from the movie.
Or sound like him. But just like Lovel, he had presence. That's what matters.
4cylndrfury wrote: I plan to watch this car movie from inside my car...sadly, there is a no beer statute in my car. Drive in theater FTMFW
I asked the Holiday in Hamilton if they'd do a gearhead double-feature with Snake and Mongoo$e. 
JoeyM wrote: ....and then I bought the DVD in the markdown bin at walmart for $5. I have impeccable taste in film.
I like Driven was my final purchase at a Circuit City.
I have the honor of taking the McLaren M23 that was driven by James Hunt to a preview next week.
N Sperlo wrote: Seen them twice. Always one of the best big shows. I prefer seeing smaller bands or bands that have the "local band attitude." The last really good show was Papa Roach. They had the energy to get the crowd involved. Favorite band to see live is Story of the Year. I'm sure the shows are better being in their home town, but they are always a good show.
Last time I saw them, Cowboy Mouth was still a fun show. I think "the drummer man" may be the only remaining member from their heyday, so I'm not sure how they are now. We've seen them a bunch of times and they were really good at engaging the crowd. Saw them once at the "stadium" on Ft. Jackson and the DI's had to make the recruits sit cross-legged. The band mocked the DI's and still had the recruits bouncin'...
Oh, and there's a movie about F1...
Supercoupe wrote: I have the honor of taking the McLaren M23 that was driven by James Hunt to a preview next week.
Post pics!!!!!
Keith Tanner wrote: ...As for resemblance to the real people, I'd rather see a good actor than a doppelganger. Hanks may not look like Lovell, but that sure didn't take away from the movie.
I don't really care if they look like the person, I would just really would like to see the actual person at the end so people can remember them for who they are and give them a bit more credit for what they did.
I suspect there are a lot of people who loved that movie and could walk right past Lovell and have no idea.
BTW I saw him speak many years ago, way before the movie, and I am pretty sur he did not even mention the troubles with the Apollo 13 mission. A wee bit humble I guess.
I will..but as a teaser here's a pic of the car waiting to go...
I actually like the film when treated as pure entertainment. Think of it as a Tom-and-Jerry cartoon episode named "Get to know your race car" and the silly scenes make more sense. I'm certain that some of them were intended to be informative for the ordinary veiwer with little interest in cars. 1) Why was there a stupid pick-up-coins scene? Probably because it explained to the viewer that a) these are not your sedan's street tires, they are much softer and stickier, b) drivers of these cars need to have VERY precise car placement - far more than normal street driving - even at the high speeds they run. [Do you think the alternative, a dramatic voice over to explain this, would have improved the film?] 2) the street driving scene showed a newspaper stand being demolished and a skirt being blown up (Look, viewer, these cars are powerful). It showed the cars going under semi-trailers (look viewer, these cars are low.) lt showed the manhole cover being sucked up and flying through the air. (look at all the downforce the cars generate to grip the road) There were some errors in the film that were clearly there to drive the plot (a driver can help another driver faster/better than a medical team) and I overlook those because they are there as story devices. There were eras and races when that might have been true
I'm sorry but no... Your post is wrong, Driven was wrong and your analysis of the movie is wrong.. The entire movie is a discredit to all Motor racing...
(Besides, how can you dislike a film about someone who spends their spare time metal shaping to build a replica of a race car from a previous era.)
Are you thinking of the IMAX movie SUPERSPEEDWAY???
I was looking for movie times to see it again with the collective, I thought it came out tomorrow, but it looks like it goes on general release on the 27th, next week.
Yup, unless you are in NY or LA.. Them folks can see it tomorrow.
Saw it on Tuesday and it was very good. Likely going to see it again with the local group of Cars and Coffee folks.
Well worth seeing and even if you're not a F1 fan or have no clue who Lauda and Hunt are. The movie is still very entertaining and you can tell they really respected the content and tried very hard to stay true to it while making it approachable for the average person.
I actually watched the race where Hunt sucker punches the marshal. Because of the event and his condescending attitude towards the volunteer marshal he never did regain my respect and changed the first letter of his name forever.
Yeah, he's not exactly the "hero" of the movie, he's a bit of a dick, but then so is Lauda. They did a very good job of showing them at their best and a bit at their worst.
Still, he's no child of Andretti or Unser in terms of the sheer size of their shiny happy people (Mario and Unser Sr are fairly cool people, their children on the other hand are complete tools).
aircooled wrote:Adrian_Thompson wrote:Cool. Good move. I really wish he would have done that at the end of Apollo 13. Tom Hanks looks nothing like Jim Lovell.aircooled wrote: Soooo, in this movie, at the end, do they show pictures / video of the actual drivers? I really hate it when they do bio / historical movies and never acknowledge the actual person. E.g. Walk the Line never showed a picture of Johny Cash or played any of his music with his actual voice.Yes they do, including a couple of friendly shots of Hunt and Lauda talking. They were good friend at the time despite their on track rivalry.
At the end when they land on the carrier in the helicopter, the real Jim Lovel plays the ships commander that shakes Tom Hanks' hand. I thought that was a really cool way to get him in the film.
I am really looking forward to this movie, Ron Howard really has a great way of telling an honest and realistic story while not being dry, boring or over dramatic. I had faith in this project when I first heard of it during The Monaco Grand Prix last year. I'm really happy that no one has had any bad things to say about it!
It lives up to its hype guys - not a Hollywood blockbuster, but a real racing movie. The best part was how they managed to evoke a real, authentic 70s vibe. Camera work was fantastic!
This says it all
drsmooth wrote:It's also worth noting that the film was not at all what Stallone intended. It was supposed to be about his character, Joe Tanto. If you watch the extra scenes and his commentary, it quickly becomes apparent that this was supposed to a movie about a former driver coming to grips with the fact that he is no longer competitive, accepting it, and learning to enjoy his new role in life as a mentor.I'm sorry but no... Your post is wrong, Driven was wrong and your analysis of the movie is wrong.. The entire movie is a discredit to all Motor racing...
Possible. I would not loose sleep over it, though. 
drsmooth wrote:(Besides, how can you dislike a film about someone who spends their spare time metal shaping to build a replica of a race car from a previous era.)Are you thinking of the IMAX movie SUPERSPEEDWAY???
Nope, I know the film fairly well. One of the very first scenes with Stallone shows him metalshaping a panel for a vintage 1960s indy-style race car.
You can see the unfinished car in this movie review at 4:16
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/fbv/bmbe/26949-driven
I can't find a longer clip showing the car, but here's a description of the character that alludes to his project car:
http://cinemademerde.com/Driven.shtml
So after the race Carl (that's Reynolds) calls Joe (Stallone), who has retired to the typical gorgeous lakefront house where he restores cars in his barn.
this is the deleted final scene of movie. He has the girl, he has finished the vintage indy car replica, and he drives it off down the dirt road, enjoying life for what it is instead of stressing about competing with the younger drivers. He's now a coach instead of a driver, and has learned to be happy with his new position in life. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyNW10yDDX8
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