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Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/4/13 8:07 a.m.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/05/world/europe/richard-the-third-bones.html?_r=0

Bones Under Parking Lot Belonged to Richard III By JOHN F. BURNS and ALAN COWELL Published: February 4, 2013

LEICESTER, England — In one of Britain’s most dramatic modern archaeological finds, researchers here announced on Monday that skeletal remains found under a parking lot in this English Midlands city were those of King Richard III, for centuries the most widely reviled of English monarchs, paving the way for a possible reassessment of his brief but violent reign.

Richard Buckley, the lead archaeologist on a project to identify the bones, told reporters that tests and research since the remains were discovered last September proved “beyond reasonable doubt” that the “individual exhumed” from a makeshift grave under the parking lot was “indeed Richard III, the last Plantagenet king of England.”

Part of the evidence came from DNA testing by the geneticist Turi King, who told the same news conference that DNA samples taken from modern-day descendants of Richard’s family matched those from the bones found at the site.

The skeleton, with a gaping hole in the skull consistent with contemporary accounts of the battlefield blow that killed him, was exhumed in the ruins of an ancient priory. It was found in the same place as historians say Richard III was buried after perishing at the Battle of Bosworth in 1485.

At the news conference on Monday, researchers showed photographs of the skeleton as they found it, stuffed into a grave without a coffin, clearly displaying curvature of the spine as chronicled in historical descriptions of Richard III’s appearance.

DNA samples from the remains had been compared with the DNA of two descendants of the monarch’s family, the researchers said. One of the descendants, Michael Ibsen, is the son of a 16th-generation niece of King Richard’s. The second wished to remain anonymous, the researchers said.

The team from the University of Leicester said that the body displayed 10 wounds, 8 of them in the skull and some likely to have caused death, possibly by a blow from a halberd, a kind of medieval weapon with an ax-like head on a long pole. Other wounds seem to have been inflicted after his death to humiliate the monarch after his armor was stripped away and he was paraded naked over the back of a horse, the researchers said.

Since at least the late 18th century, scholars have debated whether Richard was the victim of a campaign of denigration by the Tudor monarchs who succeeded him. His supporters argue that he was a decent king, harsh in the ways of his time, but a proponent of groundbreaking measures to help the poor, extend protections to suspected felons and ease bans on the printing and selling books.

But his detractors cast Richard’s 26 months on the throne as one of England’s grimmest periods, its excesses captured in his alleged role in the murder in the Tower of London of two young princes — his own nephews — to rid himself of potential rivals.

Shakespeare told the king’s story in “Richard III,” depicting him as an evil, scheming hunchback whose death at 32 ended the War of the Roses and more than three centuries of Plantagenet rule, bookended England’s Middle Ages, and proved a prelude to the triumphs of the Tudors and Elizabethans.

In Shakespeare’s account, Richard was killed after being unhorsed on the battlefield, crying: “A horse, a horse, my kingdom for a horse.”

Officials of the University of Leicester said plans were now in hand to bury the bones in Leicester’s Anglican cathedral, barely 100 yards from where the bones were found. A spokesman for the cathedral said that reburial would likely take place early next year as part of a memorial service honoring Richard as an English king.

The bones were first located when archaeologists used ground-penetrating radar on the site of the former priory and discovered that it was not underneath a 19th century bank where it was presumed to be, but under a parking lot across the street. The remains were located within days of the start of digging.

nocones
nocones GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/4/13 8:59 a.m.
paving the way for a possible reassessment of his brief but violent reign.

Unintentional pun?

RossD
RossD UberDork
2/4/13 9:10 a.m.

Anyone else watching PBS' Michael Wood's Story of England? This new find fits in well with the show, actually. Any English history buff should try to catch some of this show.

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/4/13 9:58 a.m.
RossD wrote: Anyone else watching PBS' Michael Wood's Story of England? This new find fits in well with the show, actually. Any English history buff should try to catch some of this show.

No, but Simon Schama's "A History of Britain" was excellent, as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Schama%27s_A_History_of_Britain

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 UltraDork
2/4/13 11:02 a.m.

Parking lot, patio, it's all the same really. Just tread carefully here or you'll end up like Richard III.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/4/13 3:33 p.m.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
2/4/13 3:51 p.m.
1988RedT2 wrote: Parking lot, patio, it's all the same really. Just tread carefully here or you'll end up like Richard III.

Yeah, that was my first thought: maybe it's the kind of thing that's passed down from generation to generation.

RossD
RossD UberDork
2/4/13 3:54 p.m.

In reply to Curmudgeon:

Marjorie is of Tudor descent?

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
2/4/13 3:59 p.m.

In reply to RossD:

Careful there, dude.

eastsidemav
eastsidemav HalfDork
2/4/13 4:10 p.m.

Is it gonna take us this long to find Jimmy Hoffa?

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado PowerDork
2/4/13 4:19 p.m.

Modern reenactors with halberds.

Injury on base of King Richard's skull.

Any warfare is brutal, but it must have been something else in the medieval period.

moparman76_69
moparman76_69 HalfDork
2/4/13 4:21 p.m.

I heard he was a real dick.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/4/13 8:54 p.m.
Woody wrote:

wow.. he really was a hunchback...

And honestly, I wish warfare was still that brutal.. it might make our leaders less prone to sending the troops out for stupid reasons

carguy123
carguy123 UltimaDork
2/4/13 9:56 p.m.

Looks more like scoliosis than a hunchback.

Yeah King James, my direct ancestor.

Stealthtercel
Stealthtercel HalfDork
2/4/13 10:26 p.m.

For people who only know the bad stuff about Richard III, his personal motto was "Loyalty Binds Me." Imagine him as Robert Kennedy and his elder brother Edward IV as JFK.

Now imagine that all the history of their two administrations was written by people who had to get their work approved by Richard Nixon.

It's just barely possible that the "history" we have is just a bit biased.

Every year on the anniversary of the Battle of Bosworth, somebody puts an In Memoriam notice in the major Toronto paper recalling the death of Richard, "who died defending his throne against the usurper Henry Tudor."

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
2/4/13 10:30 p.m.

I only acknowledge one King Richard

Appleseed
Appleseed PowerDork
2/4/13 11:51 p.m.

From those bones, I propose king Richard III invented the question mark.

gamby
gamby PowerDork
2/4/13 11:59 p.m.

Read about this on the AP feed and it was fascinating.

Under a CAR PARK for all this time?! Crazy. Talk about a needle in a haystack...

ZOO
ZOO GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/5/13 4:56 a.m.

Michael Ibsen is from Canada. I'm from Canada. I'm also sometimes a dick. I will let you draw your own conclusions about the second anonymous source . . .

Tralfaz
Tralfaz New Reader
2/5/13 6:09 a.m.
mad_machine wrote: And honestly, I wish warfare was still that brutal.. it might make our leaders less prone to sending the troops out for stupid reasons

I take your point but sadly for some it still is. I was listening yesterday to a radio program about Brendan Marrocco who lost both arms from a roadside bomb.(and his subsequent double arm transplant)

carguy123
carguy123 UltimaDork
2/5/13 8:51 a.m.
mad_machine wrote: And honestly, I wish warfare was still that brutal.. it might make our leaders less prone to sending the troops out for stupid reasons

But back then the leaders were on the battlefield, today they're at home in the Berkalounger.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 UltraDork
2/5/13 9:47 a.m.
carguy123 wrote:
mad_machine wrote: And honestly, I wish warfare was still that brutal.. it might make our leaders less prone to sending the troops out for stupid reasons
But back then the leaders were on the battlefield, today they're at home in the Berkalounger.

Thanks for putting into words exactly what I was thinking!

slantvaliant
slantvaliant SuperDork
2/5/13 10:06 a.m.
nocones wrote:
paving the way for a possible reassessment of his brief but violent reign.
Unintentional pun?

Intentional, as was this:

... had led her to a hunch that Richard’s body would be found beneath the parking lot ....
Beer Baron
Beer Baron PowerDork
2/5/13 1:14 p.m.
mad_machine wrote: And honestly, I wish warfare was still that brutal.. it might make our leaders less prone to sending the troops out for stupid reasons

This is more grievous than the exit wound from a .223? I believe the Civil War or WWI still hold the record for most brutal, stupid warfare. At least back in the medieval period the armor could be effective against the weapons of the day. I mean, the guy took multiple blows to the head without being killed.

Beer Baron
Beer Baron PowerDork
2/5/13 1:16 p.m.
RossD wrote: Marjorie is of Tudor descent?

Hmm...

Miata, M3, Corvette, Mustang...

All Hail the Two-Doors!

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