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spitfirebill
spitfirebill MegaDork
1/3/20 8:31 a.m.
RacetruckRon said:

Just commenting so I can find this easily in the future. Mrs. Racetruck and I have been looking to relocate to the Greenville/Anderson SC area in the next few years.

Years ago I thought Anderson would be a good place to retire to.  Now they have a LOT of murders there, although most are people who know each other or are gang/drug related.  Get out of town or on Lake Hartwell and you should be OK.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill MegaDork
1/3/20 8:36 a.m.
Scotty Con Queso said:

They'll call you Yankee in Greenville. Asheville they won't. 

Not really.  But if it’s true, it’s because everybody in Asheville is already a yankee.  Greenville still has a way to go to get there but they are well on the way.  

RacetruckRon
RacetruckRon GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
1/3/20 8:48 a.m.
spitfirebill said:
RacetruckRon said:

Just commenting so I can find this easily in the future. Mrs. Racetruck and I have been looking to relocate to the Greenville/Anderson SC area in the next few years.

Years ago I thought Anderson would be a good place to retire to.  Now they have a LOT of murders there, although most are people who know each other or are hung/drug related.  Get out of town or on Lake Hartwell and you should be OK.

I have seen that in my searches, doesn't seem much different than Milwaukee area that I'm used to. We want to end up somewhere in the Carolinas, Anderson is an easy choice because my employer's parent company is based there and would be a pretty easy transition.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill MegaDork
1/3/20 11:44 a.m.

In reply to RacetruckRon :

I haven’t looked up any crime stats, it just seems like there is a murder there on the news every couple of days.  Again, I think it’s the company you keep.  I live in Spartanburg and our murder is supposed to be high.  I’ve been all over this town and only once felt out of place.  

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
1/3/20 12:25 p.m.

In reply to spitfirebill :

Only one every couple of days? 

I'm in Baltimore. If we get a day off it makes the news. 

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
1/3/20 3:36 p.m.
RacetruckRon said:
spitfirebill said:
RacetruckRon said:

Just commenting so I can find this easily in the future. Mrs. Racetruck and I have been looking to relocate to the Greenville/Anderson SC area in the next few years.

Years ago I thought Anderson would be a good place to retire to.  Now they have a LOT of murders there, although most are people who know each other or are hung/drug related.  Get out of town or on Lake Hartwell and you should be OK.

I have seen that in my searches, doesn't seem much different than Milwaukee area that I'm used to. We want to end up somewhere in the Carolinas, Anderson is an easy choice because my employer's parent company is based there and would be a pretty easy transition.

But compared to what? And it looks like the overall trend is dramatically downward over the last 20 years. 

 

https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/us/sc/greenville/murder-homicide-rate-statistics

ProDarwin
ProDarwin UltimaDork
1/3/20 5:04 p.m.
captdownshift said:

In reply to spitfirebill :

Only one every couple of days? 

I'm in Baltimore. If we get a day off it makes the news. 

Baltimore has 20x the population of Spartanburg.

travellering
travellering HalfDork
1/3/20 8:15 p.m.

Have not lived in either,but did date someone who lived in Greenville, despite being closer to the personality type I would associate with Asheville (vegan, dancer, ran half marathons for fun, in general a "free spirit")...

I love Greenville from a bike riding standpoint, close to all sorts of great riding and driving backroads, and therexs always new restaurants to try downtown.

I can vouch for the fact that if you live in Greenville and commute to Asheville, you will probably wind up on a first-name basis with the cops who run the speed trap on hwy 25 by the golf course community at the bottom of the mountain.

Carbon
Carbon UltraDork
1/4/20 10:00 p.m.
z31maniac said:
RacetruckRo no n said:
spitfirebill said:
RacetruckRon said:

Just commenting so I can find this easily in the future. Mrs. Racetruck and I have been looking to relocate to the Greenville/Anderson SC area in the next few years.

Years ago I thought Anderson would be a good place to retire to.  Now they have a LOT of murders there, although most are people who know each other or are hung/drug related.  Get out of town or on Lake Hartwell and you should be OK.

I have seen that in my searches, doesn't seem much different than Milwaukee area that I'm used to. We want to end up somewhere in the Carolinas, Anderson is an easy choice because my employer's parent company is based there and would be a pretty easy transition.

But compared to what? And it looks like the overall trend is dramatically downward over the last 20 years. 

 

https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/us/sc/greenville/murder-homicide-rate-statistics

I'd be in deep trouble by your criteria, and I'm not talking drug related. Know what I'm sayin? ;) 

 

 

 

sorry Spitfire, saw the typo and couldn't resist. 

Gingerbeardman
Gingerbeardman Reader
1/5/20 2:55 a.m.
captdownshift said:

It's been 6 or so years since I last was in Greenville, but I know it a little bit. The long and the short of it is after brewing 2 60 barrel batches at the brewery today, I was called into the office and asked if I'd be interested in talking about the future and plans. Max and Ian were promptly called. The long and the short of it is that we've been interested on the distillery side in opening up a spot in Asheville. There's a brewery that has a common interest, but doesn't have the experience. So the plan would be that I go down to assist in setting up the barrel house operations in Asheville, then when that's operational and running smoothly for 6 months to a year, that I'd shift focus to getting a brewery up and running in Greenville, SC and thereafter split time between the two. 

Asheville and Boone are the Portland/Austin of NC. GORGEOUS scenery, excellent food, some culture, relatively crime-free, kind of a hippy place to raise your kids.

Greenville as I recall was less...memorable. Not saying anything bad about the place, but racking my brain, I can't legitimately recall anything that stood out about it. But of course that was 20 years ago. Time flies!

classicJackets
classicJackets Dork
1/5/20 4:16 a.m.

I did a co-op in the Greenville area, met my fiance there, and we thrived in the area. Greenville is a pretty clean city that feels bigger than "small town" but doesn't feel big, either - coming from Atlanta. The downtown area is really nice, and people are always out and about.  Certain other areas (woodruff parkway) slowed down enough at rush hour to make getting home a little painful. 

I think during summers, Thursday night(?) main Street is partially shut down for live music and beer in the street. Art/street festivals also happen on main Street fairly frequently. There's minor league hockey and baseball teams that play downtown, too.

Simpsonville is where a lot of the engineers I worked with lived and enjoyed. Piedmont is cheaper, still fairly nice, but not much going on. The Swamp Rabbit trail gets you a way to run/ride bikes and get up to Traveler's Rest. 1 hour in the car gets you well into the mountains, 3 hours-ish gets you to the beaches. Atlanta is 2.5 hours away.

We really enjoyed Greenville and our time there, and it's a place on our list for where we'd like to get to one day as well. Never felt unsafe downtown/being out and about.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill MegaDork
1/5/20 3:33 p.m.

In reply to Gingerbeardman :

20 years makes a hell of a difference.  

Mike
Mike GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/5/20 5:24 p.m.

I went there for the holiday back in, uh, 2016 I think. I was kinda sick for a good part of it, so we didn't get to do everything we'd hoped.

I will say the Land Rover Experience 1 hour course at The Biltmore was totally worth it. Much better than spending an equal amount on a supercar track experience. We got into what seemed to me to be improbably gnarly situations, and drove right back out. It gave me a bit more respect for the whole thing.

https://www.biltmore.com/things-to-do/activities/outdoors/land-rover/

Downtown Asheville was lovely and very walkable.

Edit:

We also got ourselves lost, and ended up driving this, going to back way to the Craven Gap Trail. The gate was closed, so the road was a dead end, but the drive was amazing. There were waterfalls alongside the road, some significant drop-offs without railings, and very light traffic. It was modestly maintained dirt for a portion. I wouldn't take an iffy street car. We kept it dead slow, but it was so beautiful.

Edit 2: Oh well, the map embed worked in preview.

Map of the back way to Craven Gap:

https://goo.gl/maps/Wx8US1my5hx4GQnK8

 

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
1/5/20 7:19 p.m.

I'll be down the last weekend of February for recon. The current day job was purcht by a company out of Charlotte back in November. They'd like to retain me in some capacity and are offering working remotely with the exception of one day a week in the Charlotte office. That would make the transition smoother from a financial standpoint and give me leverage with regards to profit sharing versus salary with the distillery and brewery. 

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/5/20 7:31 p.m.

expect the weather to be crap. actually with how it has been this year, idk how the weather will be.

it snowed today but was 60 on like friday and will be 60 this weekend.

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
1/6/20 7:54 a.m.

I lived in Charleston SC for 5ish years.. 30 minutes from gorgeous beaches.  All the while I wished I lived in Asheville and the upstate of SC.  Went up there whenever I could.

 

I have a friend who did make the move and loves it.  If you want a hook up with a 24h lemons team/chump car team let me know.  He does state the same thing about the job prospects.  There is Borg Warner Turbo and Fisher Scientific for engineery type work.  Health care is a good prospect as well as anything tourism related..  He's an engineer..  He feels trapped in his current role..

 

Greenville has much more to choose from on the employment front.

LopRacer
LopRacer Dork
1/6/20 2:35 p.m.

I have lived in the Asheville area off and on since 1980 and it certainly is Beautiful. Unfortunately the last 20 years everyone figured that out and moved here. It's getting crowded in some places and traffic is becoming a serious problem both south of town heading towards Hendersonville and Greenville and to a lesser extent west towards Weaverville and Madison county can be bad at commuting hours. The downtown is nice to visit for food and shopping but, can get annoying if you have to deal with it daily. Lots of one way streets and roads that have to fit the contour of the mountains down town, lots of tourists and peole in a small space so slow going. The back roads through out W. North Carolina are heavenly and there are countless great drives to be taken just to see the little towns through out the mountains. We have snow skiing (sort of) close by in the winter when it's cold enough for long enough to keep snow. The mountain biking and hiking are excellent. The beer culture is strong in Asheville right now, so you are coming to town for the right business.

Down sides: Traffic on certain roads and certain areas especially during commuting times. There should have improved the highway system here 20 years ago, they knew they needed it then and now they are trying to, but it's almost comical to see.

Housing is expensive and so is everything else food, gas especially.

 

The strong autocross support has already been mention as well as several great race tracks for track days and racing within a few hours drive serviced by many organizations SCCA, NASA, Champ, Lemons and each track seems to have a local group running track days as well.  Greenville would be a little more centrally located  ont he I-85/I-26 corridors for easy of travel through out the region.

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/6/20 6:50 p.m.
Fueled by Caffeine said:

  There is Borg Warner Turbo and Fisher Scientific for engineery type work.  Health care is a good prospect as well as anything tourism related..  He's an engineer..  He feels trapped in his current role..

 

Greenville has much more to choose from on the employment front.

HCA bought Mission Healthcare last year so healthcare is a big maybe at this point. There is also a GE Aviation plant that a friend works at.  But the upstate also has BMW and the associated car plant stuff.

Dusterbd13-michael
Dusterbd13-michael MegaDork
1/6/20 7:24 p.m.

Im 40 miles east of Charlotte if i can be of any help in the flatlands

bmw88rider
bmw88rider GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
1/6/20 9:49 p.m.

I'm liking what I am hearing. I go to interview for the position I'm up for here in 3 weeks. Both of my clients are located on the east side of greenville. I'm looking forward to it. I just like the fact that there is so much close too. Since I just finished the track miata, having a few tracks close and some autocross there is great. 

spitfirebill
spitfirebill MegaDork
1/6/20 10:33 p.m.

FYI.  They sometimes have autocrosses at Michelin’s “black lake”, a large asphalt expanse at their test track in Laurens County.  Not too far from Greenville. 

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